Corey Knowles

The first is where we have these incredibly powerful technologies exposed to you in very simple ways.

Chat, you can just go do anything.

Codex even, mostly for coding, but it turns out coding is a good way to use a computer, so you can actually use Codex to do non-coding work.

The product doesn't help you do that, but you could do it if you know what you're doing or if you were creative with how you prompt.

And so that's kind of the first thing, this first phase of like, it's open-ended and it's powerful and you should decide what you want to do.

And this first phase puts all the onus on us to like be online and like read about stuff and like take time, you know, when you're not busy to like try using AI.

So it's like, this is a really fun time for tinkerers, which I guess is like, like you guys and like me, but it's also hard.

So then there's this next phase, which I think we're just entering now, where actually what we want to do is we want to make it so the tinkerers can help the non-tinkerers.

Right?

People who are too busy to, like, try random prompting ideas should be able to just set Codex up or ChatGPT up or any tool up so that everyone else can use it.

So we're actually working.

I can show you a feature that we haven't, like, shipped yet, but it's, like, we're open source, so everything is in the open.

I can show you something that we're doing.

That would be amazing.

Sounds great.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's the second phase, right?

Where you don't maybe like Grant figure something out and then Corey just gets it and then Corey figures something out and then Grant just gets it.

You don't have to figure it out.