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Corey Knowles

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The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

I think there's a lot of philosophical questions there, actually, around what kinds of tasks is this suitable for?

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Because the reason why I think...

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

LLM's are so good at coding is because you can very test, you can very easily test, is it correct or not?

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And everything that the LLM needs to code is within the system, if that makes sense.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

I was talking to a journalist yesterday from the Wall Street Journal.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

If you think about what a journalist does, it's pretty hard to get an LLM to do that because an LLM to do that job has to go talk to sources,

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

You know, it's kind of hard to automate that.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

You can't have an LLM talk to sources.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Sources might not want to talk to them.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

They might lie to them.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

They have to, you know, decide how accurate something is.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

So it gets pretty complicated.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

I think there are a lot of tasks where it is scoped, basically just it is stuff on your computer that are inputs and outputs, kind of like coding.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

So I think, you know, maybe to put it another way, I think LMs are actually quite smart and probably the total addressable market of things they could do, if it could bring something like a agentic system, like a cloud code or a cursor, to all of knowledge work, it's probably 10 or 100 times larger than just a cloud code or a cursor.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

Yeah, a lot of those tools have to be custom tools.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

So we launched Asian's product, I think, three, four months ago.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And that's kind of the idea is it's almost like build your own cloud code, if you will.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And the reason why cloud code is so effective is it basically runs in a loop and it says, I have tools to use.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

And the LM decides what tools to use in order to accomplish this outcome.

The Neuron: AI Explained
How 48% of Non-Engineers Are Shipping Production Software (with Retool CEO David Hsu)

So it has an input and it's like, I want to get here and have these tools and I'll figure it out.