Corey Knowles

Yeah, you keep doing it forever.

And every so often, you stop, ship, and do it again all over again.

Okay.

So, Surge bootstrapped its way to $1.2 billion, essentially, working with top labs.

No funding is my understanding, or at least VC funding.

Okay.

How does that place you a little more in the long term when you think about building AGI and whatever's next?

Is the hope that you're going to hit this goal and then continue moving on past that?

Maybe that's a poor way to ask it.

That whole ethos almost feels like the science and business worlds colliding a little.

I don't doubt that.

Crazy to think of, though, isn't it?

From anyone, even, I would say.

It's like they're all right now moving like lightning.

It's crazy.

Yeah, I've wondered even the opposite that like, you know, and I'm going to take this back to Claude specifically, because with Claude 3.5, I felt like it was one of the best writing models around at that time.

But as they became more ingrained in the engineering community,

I feel like it lost the edge that that made it that good.

Now, I think a lot of that's back in four or five in a neat way.

But I do think that as they leaned farther into one thing, it almost sometimes feels like it's leaning out of others.