Corinne Vien

I asked about some of the conditions of the divorce. What were Jake and Amy asking for? And what did Ellen want?

I asked about some of the conditions of the divorce. What were Jake and Amy asking for? And what did Ellen want?

It's challenging to only have paperwork and screenshots and testimony from one side of the story. I would love for Ellen to share her perspective, but in her absence, I'm going to try my best to step into her shoes for this episode. Sometimes, when you're deep in a situation, living every day in a constant state of fight or flight, you don't realize how bad it's gotten.

It's challenging to only have paperwork and screenshots and testimony from one side of the story. I would love for Ellen to share her perspective, but in her absence, I'm going to try my best to step into her shoes for this episode. Sometimes, when you're deep in a situation, living every day in a constant state of fight or flight, you don't realize how bad it's gotten.

I know that feeling very well. When I struggled with postpartum depression, I didn't ask for help until I was nearing the finish line that I had quietly set for myself. And it makes me wonder if something similar happened to Ellen.

I know that feeling very well. When I struggled with postpartum depression, I didn't ask for help until I was nearing the finish line that I had quietly set for myself. And it makes me wonder if something similar happened to Ellen.

The crushing weight of caring for a dying spouse, combined with the fear, justified or not, that others might negatively influence him or get in the way of any chance at recovery. Maybe at some point, it stopped being about Jake at all. Maybe it became about Ellen, realizing that she'd completely lost herself. I know that when I've faced those moments, I have one instinct. To purge.

The crushing weight of caring for a dying spouse, combined with the fear, justified or not, that others might negatively influence him or get in the way of any chance at recovery. Maybe at some point, it stopped being about Jake at all. Maybe it became about Ellen, realizing that she'd completely lost herself. I know that when I've faced those moments, I have one instinct. To purge.

I gather evidence of my pain, I delete, I donate, and sometimes, I burn. Because to rise from the ashes, you have to light the fire first. And I can't help but wonder, was that what Ellen did? Did she wipe her hands clean and move forward? And if so, how frustrating it must have been when the past kept pulling her back.

I gather evidence of my pain, I delete, I donate, and sometimes, I burn. Because to rise from the ashes, you have to light the fire first. And I can't help but wonder, was that what Ellen did? Did she wipe her hands clean and move forward? And if so, how frustrating it must have been when the past kept pulling her back.

You know, how about the string cheese incident video? Jake's favorite band recorded a video for him while he was dying, singing him happy birthday. And this video brought him to tears. He really wanted the video. He wanted to show his friends at the hospital.

You know, how about the string cheese incident video? Jake's favorite band recorded a video for him while he was dying, singing him happy birthday. And this video brought him to tears. He really wanted the video. He wanted to show his friends at the hospital.

All right, let me play devil's advocate just one more time. I know that there is one email provider and I won't name names, but it is a nightmare to navigate. You send an email and five minutes later, it's like it vanished into the abyss. So while in a legal battle, you'd probably be able to eventually track this down, the outlook on finding it quickly, not so great.

All right, let me play devil's advocate just one more time. I know that there is one email provider and I won't name names, but it is a nightmare to navigate. You send an email and five minutes later, it's like it vanished into the abyss. So while in a legal battle, you'd probably be able to eventually track this down, the outlook on finding it quickly, not so great.

I understand Attorney Amy Clifford's concern here. While pulling court documents, I found... yet another request for a restraining order, this time against Jake's stepsister, Katie. It lacked any real evidence and was ultimately denied. And in the end, Ellen had to let Katie into Derone's house to retrieve items.

I understand Attorney Amy Clifford's concern here. While pulling court documents, I found... yet another request for a restraining order, this time against Jake's stepsister, Katie. It lacked any real evidence and was ultimately denied. And in the end, Ellen had to let Katie into Derone's house to retrieve items.

So while the restraining order requests against Derone and Max I can understand, the one against Katie does make me start to wonder. Was this just yet another way to control who could come in and out of the house?

So while the restraining order requests against Derone and Max I can understand, the one against Katie does make me start to wonder. Was this just yet another way to control who could come in and out of the house?

I'm like, oh, he must have done something. This was in 2020. Jake hosted an Ask Me Anything on Reddit, and Reddit is public, so anyone can go on and look at the thread. Amy Clifford could and did. Ellen's attorney could have as well.

I'm like, oh, he must have done something. This was in 2020. Jake hosted an Ask Me Anything on Reddit, and Reddit is public, so anyone can go on and look at the thread. Amy Clifford could and did. Ellen's attorney could have as well.