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Cory Doctorow

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The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

But the difference is that if you're a 19th century coal boss who wants to

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

figure out how much the lowest wage each coal miner you're hiring is willing to take.

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

You have to have an army of Pinkertons that like are figuring out the economic situation of every coal miner.

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

And you have to have another army of guys in green eye shades who are making annotations to the ledger where you're calculating their pay packet.

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

It's just not practical.

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

So automation makes this possible.

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

And you have this vicious cycle

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

where the poorer a nurse is, the poorer they become, the lower the wage they're offered.

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

And as they accumulate more consumer debt, their wage is continuously eroded.

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

And I think we can all understand, like, intuitively why this is unfair and why as a nurse you might not want it, but also, like,

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

Do you really want your catheter inserted by someone who drove Uber till midnight the night before and skipped breakfast this morning so they could make rent?

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

This is the thing that makes everyone except one parochial interest worse off.

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

And this is not a free-floating economic proposition.

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

This is the result of specific policy choices taken in living memory by named individuals who were warned at the time that this would be the likely outcome and who did it anyway.

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

I think...

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

One way to frame this rather than around efficiency is around optimization.

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

And I think that we can understand that for a firm, the optimal arrangement is one in which they pay nothing for their inputs and charge everything for their outputs.

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

So optimization, things are optimal from the perspective of the firm when they can discover that.

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

who is most desperate and pay them as little as possible, or who is most desperate and charge them as much as possible.

The Ezra Klein Show
Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It

But from the perspective of the users and the suppliers, things are optimal when you get paid as much as possible and are charged as little as possible.