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Cory Doctorow

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

And look, I'm not someone who believes that markets are the best or only arbiter of how we allocate resources.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

I think that there are other ways that we can do things.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

But even if you are the kind of like Elon Musk addled libertarian who can't open your copy of Atlas Shrugged anymore because the pages are all stuck together.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

And you think that the only thing that our government should ever do is enforce contracts?

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

You still want them to enforce contracts, right?

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

And for the referee to referee the game adequately, they have to be more powerful than the players on the field.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

So I tell my libertarian friends, look, the smallest government you can have

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

is determined by the largest corporation you're willing to tolerate.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

And the decision, which was taken in the late 1970s, first under Carter and then accelerating under Reagan and through the rest of it, and really coterminal with the tech industry.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

So remember, Ronald Reagan went on the campaign trail the year the Apple II Plus went on sale.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

The tech industry grew up, and as it got bigger, antitrust got smaller.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

It's really the first post-antitrust industry, which is why it looks the way it does.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

And when we decided that we would no longer enforce anti-monopoly law, we really did set in motion these very foreseeable outcomes.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

And the people responsible for it, they insist that their pro-monopoly posture, which boiled down to this,

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

that monopolies are efficient.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

That when you observe a monopoly in the wild, what you must be seeing is a company that is very pleasing to people.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

Because if a company isn't pleasing to people, then other people will enter the market and take away your monopoly.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

And so any monopoly that you find, tautologically, by circular reasoning, must be a good company.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

And so if Apple is controlling all of the app market, if Google is controlling 90% of the search market, what you're observing is a firm that is so pleasing that everyone is voluntarily using them.

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CZM Rewind: Cory Doctorow and Ed Zitron on Enshittification and the Rot Economy

And if they weren't, then they would be out-competed.