Cory Doctorow

But suffice it to say, it revolves around a young woman

And a talking prize dog who find a haunted woods nearby where the young woman is welcomed by a sort of Beauty and the Beast story as a kind of savior, but who wants no part of it.

It's funny.

It's madcap.

It's gonzo.

It's full of heart.

It is like everything great about a kid's book.

I read my daughter so many Daniel Pinkwater books when she was little.

They're so fun to read at bedtime.

It's a middle grades book, and I cannot recommend it highly enough.

Jules, Penny, and the Rooster by the incredible Daniel Pinkwater.

My pleasure.

Thank you for having me on.

No, it's both less exciting and sort of more contingent than that.

So I work for a nonprofit called the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

We're sort of the leading digital rights group in the world.

And I've been there for 25 years.

And getting people to care about digital rights, it's hard, right?

Because you're asking them to care about things that are abstract and far in the future and technical.

you know, you can just like wait until their lives have been destroyed by technology and then they'll care about it.