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Corynne McSherry

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
125 total appearances

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Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

That's a lot of lawful speech.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

That's a lot that we have authorized Twitter

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

Facebook and everyone else to take down and encourage them to and keep in mind I want to say one more thing that I said before but I want to emphasize it once we start down this path if you think that this is going to stay within the decision makers at Silicon Valley you are dreaming I mean that's bad enough I'm not actually sure why we all want Silicon Valley to make decisions about what speech is okay for all the rest of us but even that aside it's not going to stop there governments are going to come in when they see that Google Facebook Twitter can easily take down accounts they're going to say okay

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

could you do that for us?

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

This doesn't stop.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

Oh, if I was queen of the world.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

It's hard to turn that down.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

But I think even I would have trouble, in all instances, being perfect about what was lawful speech and what wasn't speech.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

But that actually isn't my main concern.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

It's that even I could then potentially be required by a government

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

to then use that algorithm for other purposes, and that would be really dangerous.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

But here's the one thing that I would say, and this is where I think we agree, is that if I was queen of the world, and I was running any of these companies, one of the things I would absolutely do is put in much better processes for people to appeal, for people to challenge when things are taken down wrong.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

This isn't just a speech issue, it's a due process issue, because let's face it,

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

Of course, these aren't official government forums.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

We all understand that, but nonetheless, this is how we talk to each other.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

These are our public spaces, and in those public spaces, it's really important when your account gets suspended, when you get taken offline, to be able to get back up if what you're doing is perfectly legal, and right now, the reality is, and I know this because I hear from people all the time, it's very confusing.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

You don't know who to appeal to.

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More Perfect: The Hate Debate

You don't know why you're taken down half the time, and you don't know what to do.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

So, I mean, I think that that's really a real pressure point because I think a lot of these companies, and I think actually genuinely so, feel uncomfortable making money from hate.

Radiolab
More Perfect: The Hate Debate

But unfortunately, we still have a problem.