Courtney Harrell (Host)

This partly goes back to the stigma we talked about before. Some landlords assume that anyone relying on a voucher to pay part of their rent is not going to be responsible enough to pay for the rest of it. But also, there's another issue. There's just not enough housing to go around.

This partly goes back to the stigma we talked about before. Some landlords assume that anyone relying on a voucher to pay part of their rent is not going to be responsible enough to pay for the rest of it. But also, there's another issue. There's just not enough housing to go around.

And that limited inventory means that landlords can just charge more and more, making the gap between what people make and what they need to make to pay rent bigger and bigger.

And that limited inventory means that landlords can just charge more and more, making the gap between what people make and what they need to make to pay rent bigger and bigger.

And that limited inventory means that landlords can just charge more and more, making the gap between what people make and what they need to make to pay rent bigger and bigger.

Let's go back to Celeste. She's the woman in Brian's book whose house burned down. She is one of the millions looking for housing she can afford with really low wages. But for Celeste, and a lot of people, that's not the only complicating factor.

Let's go back to Celeste. She's the woman in Brian's book whose house burned down. She is one of the millions looking for housing she can afford with really low wages. But for Celeste, and a lot of people, that's not the only complicating factor.

Let's go back to Celeste. She's the woman in Brian's book whose house burned down. She is one of the millions looking for housing she can afford with really low wages. But for Celeste, and a lot of people, that's not the only complicating factor.

We've been talking mostly about the group of people who already do not have secure housing to go to. And then there's this whole other group of people that is a huge part of the country who have housing but are on edge, where they're not making enough to be able to know that they're going to be able to comfortably afford the place that they're living.

We've been talking mostly about the group of people who already do not have secure housing to go to. And then there's this whole other group of people that is a huge part of the country who have housing but are on edge, where they're not making enough to be able to know that they're going to be able to comfortably afford the place that they're living.

We've been talking mostly about the group of people who already do not have secure housing to go to. And then there's this whole other group of people that is a huge part of the country who have housing but are on edge, where they're not making enough to be able to know that they're going to be able to comfortably afford the place that they're living.

They're uncertain how long they are going to have the stability that they have right now. Can you talk about that group of people at all?

They're uncertain how long they are going to have the stability that they have right now. Can you talk about that group of people at all?

They're uncertain how long they are going to have the stability that they have right now. Can you talk about that group of people at all?

Can people do anything when they're evicted?

Can people do anything when they're evicted?

Can people do anything when they're evicted?

So what do we do? How do we fix this?

So what do we do? How do we fix this?

So what do we do? How do we fix this?