Courtney Harrell (Host)

I'm Courtney Harrell, and this is what we spend. This week, we're going to talk about this problem with housing with journalist Brian Goldstone. He's the author of There Is No Place For Us, a new book that tries to understand our housing crisis by following five families in Atlanta.

I'm Courtney Harrell, and this is what we spend. This week, we're going to talk about this problem with housing with journalist Brian Goldstone. He's the author of There Is No Place For Us, a new book that tries to understand our housing crisis by following five families in Atlanta.

We'll talk about a couple of them, but for now, the most important thing to know is that everyone Brian followed had full-time jobs, sometimes more than one, and all of them still couldn't afford housing. Like Maxine, they are the working homeless, people who are trapped in a cycle of housing struggles that doesn't fit the picture of homelessness that comes to mind for most of us.

We'll talk about a couple of them, but for now, the most important thing to know is that everyone Brian followed had full-time jobs, sometimes more than one, and all of them still couldn't afford housing. Like Maxine, they are the working homeless, people who are trapped in a cycle of housing struggles that doesn't fit the picture of homelessness that comes to mind for most of us.

We'll talk about a couple of them, but for now, the most important thing to know is that everyone Brian followed had full-time jobs, sometimes more than one, and all of them still couldn't afford housing. Like Maxine, they are the working homeless, people who are trapped in a cycle of housing struggles that doesn't fit the picture of homelessness that comes to mind for most of us.

Brian says they're part of a whole world of homelessness that most of us aren't seeing.

Brian says they're part of a whole world of homelessness that most of us aren't seeing.

Brian says they're part of a whole world of homelessness that most of us aren't seeing.

Yeah. I mean, I think in our last episode, we talked to somebody who I think we would say is a member of the hidden homeless that you're talking about. Her name was Maxine. She is a full-time long-haul truck driver. And She got to the point in her life where she could no longer afford to pay for her apartment and had to start living in her truck full time.

Yeah. I mean, I think in our last episode, we talked to somebody who I think we would say is a member of the hidden homeless that you're talking about. Her name was Maxine. She is a full-time long-haul truck driver. And She got to the point in her life where she could no longer afford to pay for her apartment and had to start living in her truck full time.

Yeah. I mean, I think in our last episode, we talked to somebody who I think we would say is a member of the hidden homeless that you're talking about. Her name was Maxine. She is a full-time long-haul truck driver. And She got to the point in her life where she could no longer afford to pay for her apartment and had to start living in her truck full time.

And I wondered about what you saw in your reporting. If the people who can no longer afford housing are not on the street, where else are they turning to whenever they don't have someplace to go?

And I wondered about what you saw in your reporting. If the people who can no longer afford housing are not on the street, where else are they turning to whenever they don't have someplace to go?

And I wondered about what you saw in your reporting. If the people who can no longer afford housing are not on the street, where else are they turning to whenever they don't have someplace to go?

And do we have any sense of how common this is?

And do we have any sense of how common this is?

And do we have any sense of how common this is?

Let's zoom in on one of those 4 million Americans. Brian followed a woman named Celeste. Celeste is a single mom of three kids, and one day she got a call that her house was on fire. It turned out that an angry ex-boyfriend had intentionally burned it down, so now she needed to find a new apartment.

Let's zoom in on one of those 4 million Americans. Brian followed a woman named Celeste. Celeste is a single mom of three kids, and one day she got a call that her house was on fire. It turned out that an angry ex-boyfriend had intentionally burned it down, so now she needed to find a new apartment.

Let's zoom in on one of those 4 million Americans. Brian followed a woman named Celeste. Celeste is a single mom of three kids, and one day she got a call that her house was on fire. It turned out that an angry ex-boyfriend had intentionally burned it down, so now she needed to find a new apartment.