Courtney

The wicked integration, you know?

And his name is Kevin, I found out.

It's not even Jake.

Yeah.

I mean, I know I'm I feel very like after she said like Heather doesn't fit in the cast because she's too liberal because she's like an ally to the LGBTQ community.

I'm like, OK, now I don't really want you back.

But then also if I'm like, OK, if I'm going to look at you as a character, because that's what I have to do to like try to separate the art from the artist, if you will.

Yes.

Vicky has to come back in some capacity for the 20th season, and I think it should just be hosting a party in her backyard in the grotto where someone gives her an award for being the OG of the OC, and then she falls down those stairs again.

And then scene cut, that's it.

I thought you were making a mean joke.

she like someone really close in tamra's orbit knows every single shitty thing we say about her but like tamra's like whatever she loves being no she's got eyes on everyone that tamra judge eyes on everyone she knows what's happening all all at all times like every account every podcast like we were blocked she's unblocked us now i was afraid i was gonna run into her at bravo con i didn't she was that was when i was like oh god i'm a little scared about that one

She, she, she frightens me because then I also am like, would I like actually like her though?

Like when you meet everybody, they're just, they really are so lovely.

And so like, I feel like when you're talking to them, you're like, okay, now I'm like, I just want you to know my opinion of you on the show is not going to change.

Like how you act on the show.

I'm still going to be discussing, but you're a very lovely human being.

And thank you for the nice conversation.

He's got a new girlfriend now.

So she's gone.