Craig Brewer

And so I think that maybe it was just because he was very much into kind of like corporate planning that he just – it's like, well, what do we have and what can we do and what do we want and what's the ultimate goal?

and I think I just couldn't see the forest for the trees a little bit.

Well, I think that because the thing that had really depressed me is that I tried to make a film before this, that I tried to shoot on film.

And I didn't quite know what I was doing, but I was hearing from everybody that this is what was going to get me into Sundance or get me into the industries that it had to be shot on film.

And he really – on that phone call, he was like, it sounds to me like you're trying to get in and you're not trying to get good.

And –

Yeah, kind of stings, doesn't it?

Right.

And it's like – it's so true.

And I have to say like even today when I'm talking to young filmmakers, you want to be careful because sometimes they'll come up to me and they're like, look, I got this whole idea for a franchise.

It's kind of this superhero movie and blah, blah, blah.

And they start going into it and I want them to stay –

and to keep talking.

But there's another part of me that wants to just say like, here's what my dad would probably say, is that you don't have the tools to produce this.

So you need to maybe redirect some of your thoughts and your passion to wanting to make something towards your own life and trust that your own life might actually be more interesting than explosions on another planet.

And I think that that's really the big,

lesson with it all you know just to try to just to the best of my ability he we produced plays of mine right after i graduated high school and you know i did a lot in high school as well but after high school the two of us formed a company uh that was just called i mean we didn't form a company it was like that we had an account and the account you and your dad was for two brewers

And so the account abbreviation was BR2, which later when my father passed away, that was the name of my company.

And it's now still a family company.

My daughter made a short film just recently, and she actually – it was a big teary moment when she said, I'd like to restart BR2 again.