Craig Carton

And I think five's a stretch, to be honest, because I don't have a quarterback, okay?

But the Giants number actually stood out to me.

Did it?

And I'll tell you why.

Because the way a lot of Giant fans, you included, have talked this offseason is that you guys truly believe, not just based on fandom, that there is 10-win talent on this roster.

And you guys have kind of intimated that, if not saying those exact words...

Over the course of the last month and a half.

Is that a fair assessment for me to make?

Yes.

Okay, so we believe as Giant fans that the New York Giants have 10-win talent.

You guys are also, rightfully so, very excited about John Harbaugh and a very competent coaching staff that he has brought to the New York Giants.

Is that a factual statement?

beyond a fact okay so explain this to me and i know a lot of people are going to say you know what vegas says means nothing but it does mean something sure it gives you a first glimpse at what football people think each team is going to be now you might exceed the expectation of course you might come under the expectation as both teams did last year yes so we've experienced both correct

But how is it that you guys have bought into the notion that as we sit here today, the New York Giants are 10-win talent, meaning a possible wildcard berth, and maybe they press the Eagles for a late shot to maybe steal the division, and yet the first numbers have come out.

And it's not a good number, buddy.

It is not a good number.

Okay.

Based on your belief that I've got 10-win town in that building and that John Harbaugh is the great divider.

Yeah.

Now, your over-under is not nine.