Craig Hutchison

I think the sevens, the triple M side will emerge a bit more in the sevens.

I hope it does, Archie.

I've been saying it for... I don't think it's been directly, though.

I think it's just been James being overtly cautious for a long time.

I feel... Well, you, the landscape.

Now, this is interesting, too, because you had a lot of fun about me being on Channel 7.

How are you going with one of your big-name employees on the SEN network now as part of this SEA's Channel 7 mix-up and merger and cross-promotion saying this?

This is an SEN person saying this about an SEA product.

Now, Hachi, I know you well enough to know you won't like, forget the fact it's my mate Kane, the corn, distributing that content, but you will not, just insert another SEN identity in that moment.

You wouldn't like that, Hachi.

I know you well enough to know.

In fact, you were doing everything you can now to not fold your arms.

That's the first you've heard of that.

And I know that you are fighting your arms to be crossed.

I'm very relaxed about that.

Democracy and distribution.

I told you this.

I know that you're going to leave this studio in about 45 minutes time and you're going to make a phone call.

I could care absolutely less about that.

No problem at all.