Craig Robinson

We also want to be a part of helping couples understand that it does take work and it is hard, even in the best marriages.

Can you talk a little bit more about that?

Knowing that this is a safe space of not judgment, everybody understands humility and blessings, but it takes work.

And so you don't want to give up on something when it starts to get hard in the way that it's naturally going to be.

Let's talk about how you're raising the kids, you know, the values, how you're thinking about what kind of people you want them to be.

Are you parenting the girls differently?

And the boys are babies.

Are you scared of her yet?

Is she scaring you?

Yeah, I am.

It gets—because sometimes—well, Barack got scared, you know.

He got scared off.

Sasha, the feisty one, was very scary to her father.

You know, that's, it means something to, at all these stages, to, you know, just have these honest conversations where your kids can, they can disagree with you.

They can point out stuff because it's like, I think that gave me,

us the confidence that you need when you're out there and at some point you've got to advocate for yourself in life.

And if you don't feel like you've been taught to advocate for yourself at home, then where do you get the practice of speaking up for yourself and demanding a level of respect and then how to do it?

All of that stuff is practice at home around the table.

which doesn't require any money.

It doesn't require... My parents didn't go to college.