Craig

And in a recent opinion piece, she said that we need to rethink the great Australian dream.

Undoubtedly, property ownership makes an abundance of sense financially as well as practically, but it is more than that.

she goes on to say it's the security it brings today as well as tomorrow and ultimately the sense of place and belonging well let's bring alice in a very good morning alice and welcome to the real estate podcast good morning craig and thank you for having me it's great to be here and i should say well done you for coming on to the program because you are still recovering from covert

How difficult has it been?

And I suppose technology, we're so lucky, aren't we?

Here you are sort of communicating from where you are and we're able to sort of soldier on.

Well, I mentioned that, you know, the sense of place and belonging, it is so true about belonging in this opinion piece that you wrote, as the home is a foundation that everything springs forward from, especially for a family starting out on the property ladder.

And it seems in recent times the basic notion of having that is kind of out of reach for many Australians, do you feel?

And what about you yourself?

Do you know people that have got this real challenging aspect of climbing into the property market?

Yeah, and in your opinion, Peter,

You went on to say that Australians should be able to access a home should they so desire and should they be willing to work for it.

But it needn't be lavish and plush, as you say.

It needn't be in a certain postcode and it needn't be a quarter acre block.

So do you think that some people haven't been able to recalibrate the current market trends to people's expectations?

I really like the moment that you make in the piece about you and your husband buying your first home quite late.

And with your first home, you had three children in tow.

So that era is probably a bit of a distant memory, but what can you remember about that?

Yeah, it's all about that recalibration.

One of the things that I've really found fascinating and interesting is this whole rent vesting and how professional couples are staying in the CBD, but they are sort of buying outside of their location, perhaps outside of their state.