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Crystal Fox

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
365 total appearances

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Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

So Michigan has rewritten the mental health code as it relates to when you can hospitalize someone.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

It's no longer a danger to solve for others.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

You won't find that in our code.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

What you'll find is risk of harm.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

That's the question.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

So, a recent case in Michigan, this individual had a long history of mental illness.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

He'd be treated, hospitalized, he'd get out, wouldn't take his medicine.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

He comes into court and the doctor who is testifying on behalf of the county says, well, he is currently not at risk of harm.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

However,

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

Within three to six months, we can expect he'll stop taking his medicine again, and then he'll be at risk of harm due to possible suicide, drug abuse, increased risk of dementia, and other things.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

Court of Appeals said that works.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

So by intervening earlier, that helps.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

But then the second part is when the court enters an order for treatment, if you've been hospitalized for mental illness, you've got to, even temporarily, that's pretty serious.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

Does anybody really believe you can be discharged the next day with nothing?

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

I don't think so.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

So what we do in Michigan, the standard order is if you come to court on a petition and you're in the hospital, we will enter a combined treatment order of 180 days of assisted outpatient treatment

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

and up to 60 days of hospitalization to be used during that period of time.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

And just kind of evidence of why this works, I saw a study recently regarding those persons who are found not guilty of a reason of insanity, and they measured what the likelihood of them being arrested again over the next five years.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

For those people who were treated at the forensic center and discharged without community treatment, they were arrested 44% of the time.

Tony Mantor: Why Not Me ?
NSSC: Voices of Change Part 1: Serious Mental Illness, Missed Care, and the Criminal Justice Gap

For those who were discharged under the supervision of a treatment plan, they were arrested 8%.