Curtis Reid

There was one time that I glanced over to him and the judge was really making a specific reference to the unborn child.

So obviously Natalie was 15 weeks pregnant and her family died.

had decided to call the baby Dane, so they referred to the baby Dane throughout the actual trial itself.

He did look particularly emotional whenever the baby was mentioned and when Natalie's pregnancy was mentioned.

You could see that it's his eyes filled with tears a little bit.

But in terms of throughout the entire sentencing remarks, he sat...

very slouched.

He played with his beard most of the time.

He sort of twiddled his, he has a very sort of overgrown, dishevelled beard now.

And he sort of just played with it the entire time.

And when he was asked to stand by Justice Kinney and told that he would be sentenced to 31 years, there was no reaction whatsoever.

A very long sentence, yeah.

I have covered multiple sentencing of the most horrific cases and we've done podcast episodes about it.

I think back to the Derry Lynn massacre where we thought he was going to get a whole life order and that involved a man who burnt an entire family alive.

I think in the end, I think he only got about 20, 20 years.

So whenever we heard 31 years, there was a visible sort of shock amongst the journalists because, and even afterwards, there was a bit of discussion on this is possibly one of the longest sentences that's ever been passed down, especially in recent history.

Natalie's family were present.

What was their reaction in the court?

Throughout the actual sentencing remarks, there was visible emotion from a few family members.

Her brothers and her parents were sat just in my eyeline, just behind McCullough.