Curtis Yarvin

Have you ever seen anything like that in the 21st century? I mean, the whole class in Jane Austen's world is the class of, like, UBI-earning aristocrats, right?

It's very hard. So first of all, when we say when we say liberty, for example, so you you did a thing that people often do where they confuse freedom with power. So free speech is a freedom. The right to vote is a form of power. And so the assumption that you're making is that through getting the vote in the early 20th century in England and America, women made life better for themselves.

It's very hard. So first of all, when we say when we say liberty, for example, so you you did a thing that people often do where they confuse freedom with power. So free speech is a freedom. The right to vote is a form of power. And so the assumption that you're making is that through getting the vote in the early 20th century in England and America, women made life better for themselves.

First of all, I don't believe in actually voting at all. So it's a little... Do you vote? No. I believe that voting is providing this sort of almost kind of pornographic stimulus. It sort of becomes more like supporting your football team or something. It basically enables you to feel like you have a certain status.

First of all, I don't believe in actually voting at all. So it's a little... Do you vote? No. I believe that voting is providing this sort of almost kind of pornographic stimulus. It sort of becomes more like supporting your football team or something. It basically enables you to feel like you have a certain status.

But the thing is, what does this power mean to you is really the most important question. And I think that what it means to most people today is that it provides a sort of meaning for them. It makes them feel relevant. It makes them feel like they matter in a sense. And I think that

But the thing is, what does this power mean to you is really the most important question. And I think that what it means to most people today is that it provides a sort of meaning for them. It makes them feel relevant. It makes them feel like they matter in a sense. And I think that

There's there's something deeply illusory about that sense of mattering that sort of goes up against the very, very important question of we need a government that is actually good and that actually works and we don't have one.

There's there's something deeply illusory about that sense of mattering that sort of goes up against the very, very important question of we need a government that is actually good and that actually works and we don't have one.

It's not a simplistic way of thinking and having worked inside the kind of salt mines where CEOs do their CEOing business and having been a CEO myself, I think I have a better sense of it maybe unfortunately than most people. Last time we spoke, I used the example of imagine if your MacBook had to be made by the California Department of Computing or if your electric car had to be made by the U.S.

It's not a simplistic way of thinking and having worked inside the kind of salt mines where CEOs do their CEOing business and having been a CEO myself, I think I have a better sense of it maybe unfortunately than most people. Last time we spoke, I used the example of imagine if your MacBook had to be made by the California Department of Computing or if your electric car had to be made by the U.S.

Department of Transportation.

Department of Transportation.

Well, they live in a governed society. And so the thing is, basically, when libertarians talk about Apple and Tesla, they're saying, okay, here are the benefits of freedom, etc., etc., etc. That's sort of true in a sense, but the benefit of freedom is that these organizations have used freedom to establish monarchies, which are completely top-down command units.

Well, they live in a governed society. And so the thing is, basically, when libertarians talk about Apple and Tesla, they're saying, okay, here are the benefits of freedom, etc., etc., etc. That's sort of true in a sense, but the benefit of freedom is that these organizations have used freedom to establish monarchies, which are completely top-down command units.

And so when I basically look at systems run by CEOs, I'm just like, basically, I think that if you took any of the Fortune 500 CEOs, some of them are good, some of them are bad, but the overall quality, you know, just pick one at random and... And put him or her in charge of Washington. And I think you'd get something much, much better than what's there. It doesn't have to be Elon Musk.

And so when I basically look at systems run by CEOs, I'm just like, basically, I think that if you took any of the Fortune 500 CEOs, some of them are good, some of them are bad, but the overall quality, you know, just pick one at random and... And put him or her in charge of Washington. And I think you'd get something much, much better than what's there. It doesn't have to be Elon Musk.

The like median performance is so much better. But you asked something that I think is a more important and more interesting question, which is. You know, you're like, OK, America needs a CEO who will be economically efficient. The CEO who will be economically efficient will think of human beings as pure economic units and will do things like.

The like median performance is so much better. But you asked something that I think is a more important and more interesting question, which is. You know, you're like, OK, America needs a CEO who will be economically efficient. The CEO who will be economically efficient will think of human beings as pure economic units and will do things like.

Perfect, perfect question. The thing is, normally we think of the goal of a company as making a profit or just selling more stuff, but that's not actually really the goal of a company. The real goal of a company is to maximize the worth of its assets to make the stock price go up.