Cy Gavin

Now I'm on the board of that museum and it's like, it's still an issue actually.

Um,

But it's the library in the basement through the stacks.

That's the number one question.

I mean, I wanted to be in the museum, so I made it a point to get in there.

I'm sure that other people would want to be in the museum, but

but I'm also sure that many people wouldn't.

And I think that like that curiosity to go into a museum has to sort of, people have to encounter that.

And what was unique and I think really lucky about my experience having that be the museum I would go to was that it was also the Natural History Museum and Carnegie funded a lot of excavations for dinosaur bones.

So,

I thought all museums were this kind of mix of like an active academic space and also collecting art from wherever and also relics from other cultures.

Yeah, I mean, I brought, I was copying paintings that I saw in the world and in books mostly.

And they were all 16 by 20 because Michaels would have like two per sales.

And that's what I could afford.

It was like $5 for two.

They do have coupons.

And so I would get them when they would be on sale and then I was very afraid of just making something that I wasn't proud of because it was costly, relatively speaking.

And those paintings were originally on like using just hobbyist paint, like 50 cent tubes from joint fabrics.

which I really like, actually, and I still use that paint now because it has a lot of chalk and it's very absorbent, absorptive, rather.

And so it has a matte finish and is also affordable, so you can work with it without feeling sensitive about losing stuff.