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Like, oh, well, go hack this website and basically commit a crime to prove to me that you're not a fed. Whereas Anonymous is just like, you don't know who's in here.

Like, oh, well, go hack this website and basically commit a crime to prove to me that you're not a fed. Whereas Anonymous is just like, you don't know who's in here.

It became very obvious, like, we need to move more underground and meet people. be a lot more selective with the individuals that we're interacting with on a daily basis. I moved on to basically doing stuff myself and becoming associates with other hacking groups. I started learning from Team Poison, MLT, I actually knew Trick, too. I don't know if you're aware of who Trick was.

It became very obvious, like, we need to move more underground and meet people. be a lot more selective with the individuals that we're interacting with on a daily basis. I moved on to basically doing stuff myself and becoming associates with other hacking groups. I started learning from Team Poison, MLT, I actually knew Trick, too. I don't know if you're aware of who Trick was.

So I didn't really develop any kind of like altruistic ideology for a little while. It was more just all curiosity based and learning. I was obsessed with learning more and more as much as I could because I thought it was so intriguing. You know, if I could shell this website and then if I can root it and then if I can like get access to all the other subdomains.

So I didn't really develop any kind of like altruistic ideology for a little while. It was more just all curiosity based and learning. I was obsessed with learning more and more as much as I could because I thought it was so intriguing. You know, if I could shell this website and then if I can root it and then if I can like get access to all the other subdomains.

It was really just a bunch of challenges. So I always was just pushing myself to learn new things.

It was really just a bunch of challenges. So I always was just pushing myself to learn new things.

So I joined into a group called Anon Ghost, which there were some really competent people in there. But as time progressed, their leaders started becoming radicalized members supporting ISIS. So I had to diverge away from them. And then I joined a group called Anon Sec, which people, I hated the name and wanted to change it because...

So I joined into a group called Anon Ghost, which there were some really competent people in there. But as time progressed, their leaders started becoming radicalized members supporting ISIS. So I had to diverge away from them. And then I joined a group called Anon Sec, which people, I hated the name and wanted to change it because...

it got associated with anonymous so much and i had like a disdain for anonymous at that time like heavily because that's not where the most technologically advanced hackers were at like none of them are in anonymous and that really bothered me that some of our hacks got attributed to anonymous um i eventually ended up like taking over the group um

it got associated with anonymous so much and i had like a disdain for anonymous at that time like heavily because that's not where the most technologically advanced hackers were at like none of them are in anonymous and that really bothered me that some of our hacks got attributed to anonymous um i eventually ended up like taking over the group um

But I think that's where I started to get more politically motivated and we did a whole bunch of different operations. I think one of our first one was

But I think that's where I started to get more politically motivated and we did a whole bunch of different operations. I think one of our first one was

Operation Detroit, where they were having, you know, it's like really similar to the Flint, Michigan issue with the water, but it had more to do with the corruption in the government there and the fact that they have a really messed up system for how their water is distributed.

Operation Detroit, where they were having, you know, it's like really similar to the Flint, Michigan issue with the water, but it had more to do with the corruption in the government there and the fact that they have a really messed up system for how their water is distributed.

So that was our first segue into politically motivated stuff because it pissed me off. And it was like, we can actually do something about this. It's like, okay, well now nobody's going to pay you. So you're not getting any payments. So what are you going to do now? And honestly, we kept that part of their web server down for I think two months. So I'm not really sure...

So that was our first segue into politically motivated stuff because it pissed me off. And it was like, we can actually do something about this. It's like, okay, well now nobody's going to pay you. So you're not getting any payments. So what are you going to do now? And honestly, we kept that part of their web server down for I think two months. So I'm not really sure...

the equivalent of financial laws that they had for that. But it was significant enough for them to make announcements and changes and launch investigations into who was doing this. And actually, one of the members of our group got arrested for this.

the equivalent of financial laws that they had for that. But it was significant enough for them to make announcements and changes and launch investigations into who was doing this. And actually, one of the members of our group got arrested for this.