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Dada El-Kurd

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
135 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

The main Hamas spokesperson, Hazem Qasim, basically argued that decisions on war and peace should be made through national consensus within a unified Palestinian institution, not unilaterally by any faction, but that in the absence of functioning institutions, then Hamas as a part of the Palestinian body politic has a right to engage in violence and defend Palestinians.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

He also argued that it wasn't Hamas's fault that there wasn't national consensus or functioning national institutions.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

His narrative was that Hamas consistently sought unity, first by entering into elections in 2006 and supporting election attempts that President Mohamed Abbas of the Fatah party and the Palestinian Authority ended up canceling.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

He also reiterated that Hamas doesn't mind handing over governance in Gaza to a technocratic body, which proves from his perspective that they aren't trying to govern alone.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

And on the question of disarmament, he said Hamas would commit to ceasefire, they would commit to maybe storing their weapons, but they wouldn't disarm entirely and they maintain that armed tactics are a legitimate right.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

He also emphasized that Israel alone was responsible for the destruction of Gaza and that no one could have anticipated the level of brutality Israel would unleash.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

Now, the Fatah Spokesperson, Munder Hayek, understandably disagreed with many of these points.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

He represents the opposing party.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

And from his perspective, the October 7th attacks were launched without national consensus and that consensus could only operate through the Palestine Liberation Organization, the PLO, which is the internationally recognized representative of the Palestinian people.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

Hayek also made the reasonable argument that even if everyone agrees armed resistance is a right, that those engaging in that tactic should consider the regional and international context, as well as the impact of these kinds of tactics and the likelihood of their success.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

And in his view, because these things were not considered, October 7th led to very negative results for Palestinians and a lack of meaningful international support.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

He also admonished Hamas leadership for making what he thinks is a political decision of not negotiating a ceasefire earlier, accusing them of having been able to stop the war in the first six months and limit the bloodshed.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

And finally, he criticized Hamas for prolonging negotiations and refusing to put the PA in charge of Gaza.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

And he landed on the argument that there could be no future for Hamas, from his perspective, as part of a national liberation movement,

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

Unless it accepted the PLO, it disarmed, it renounced violence, and understood that the PA, the Palestinian Authority, was the only legitimate authority that could control both territories, the West Bank and Gaza.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

And the way to, quote, unify Palestinian geography is through the Palestinian Authority.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

And doing that would be the only way to get back to the state building project.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

I'm just summarizing here to be clear.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

His words, not mine.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

Now, the final panelist, Mustafa Ibrahim, is a writer and human rights activist in Gaza who took a critical position of both parties.