Daisy Goodwin

Yeah.

I, I, I made a lot of TV shows in the early noughties.

And, um, when things were, I have to say quite bad, I mean, they had shows like America's Next Top Model and, um, something about Miriam.

I don't know if you remember that.

Oh, yes.

Yes.

Miriam turned out to be a trans woman.

Um,

And that was, you know, so, so there were pretty extreme shows then.

And I, in fact, one of the reasons I left making that, stopped making that kind of TV was that I, I just, I couldn't go there.

You know, they would always say, and are they going to have sex?

And I go, well, I don't think so.

So I wasn't really cut out for it.

But now I think it's got really, really bad.

And I'm so shocked by the scandal surrounding Married at First Sight.

And, you know, it's a two-pronged thing because it's, you know, it's a really popular show.

And I just have to worry about, A, I feel really worried about everybody who takes part in it because I think it's quite damaging to

a particular experiment, but also I slightly worry about people watching it because are they not looking at the people on the show and thinking actually those are human beings?

It's almost as if it's become reality TV has become a computer game.

that the people in it are not real people.