Dame Arlene Phillips

And I was like, first of all, I was like, ah, girls.

And then second of all, I was like, ah, you know, like the social element of it.

But she just kind of like throw him in the deep end and see if he can swim.

And that was her thing.

Wow.

So when I was like, when I got my diagnosis about around nine, yeah.

So it was, it was more of like a confidence thing to actually get me to talk.

And then, and then it became like, obviously helping me with my stammer.

And then as time went on, it was like, I didn't have any other passion.

It was, that was it.

And I never thought I was, I never thought of it as a career.

And that's probably where I was like, not ambitious.

I just love it.

And I've just been so lucky that I've just kind of like, just jumped at any opportunity I've had to have.

Yeah, that's what I knew, like every single one.

Like musical theatre, as soon as I started acting classes, it was like musical theatre was my special interest.

Like everything was there.

So obviously Arlene, you know.

I sat down, I was like, so when you did this, when you did that, and she was like, why are you listening to my CPO?

I think I remembered more than you probably did.