Damian Barrett

You really do.

You are a real set of leg irons in these situations, I find.

Me too.

It's a security blanket incumbent for me.

And I've twirled pens for 20 years on television to the point where I'm now, I don't even realize I'm doing it.

And it spins, as you're seeing right now.

I tell you, I never really thought about hands.

I always have a bit of fun at the old pretty classified days at the end with some fake hand movements just to see who was watching.

You did.

I never really thought about hand movement much.

Yep.

until those infamously unsuccessful 16 weeks I had hosting the footy show on a Thursday when I realized how awkward I was.

In a journalistic environment, you're not as exposed, but in an entertainment environment, when your charisma is on or lack thereof is on display, I realized how poor I was in the hands.

There was a famous night when Manny Pacquiao came into the free show and I was trying to be the entertainment host.

And if you go back and look at my hand...

movements in that segment.

It might have been the beginning of the end for me.

Sometimes a man's got to know his limitations.

Well, it's interesting.

It's quite cultural in the NFL.