Damian Hughes

Well, first of all, thanks for having us on, Anthony.

It's a real privilege to get to chat with you.

And thanks for reading the book as well.

That's always a privilege.

We came up with the idea that we've done over 400 interviews with these incredible people on the podcast.

And

One of the things is we often talk about great abstract ideas like motivation or having a vision or drive.

And what we wanted to do was sort of drill down into what are the small things that anybody can understand?

What leads to motivation?

What leads to greater drive?

So we started exploring like small behaviors that we'd seen that, that, I mean, you referenced atomic habits.

We sat down with James Clear, who,

had this great line that the heaviest weight in the gym is always the front door.

So James had spoke to us about it's often just finding one small step you can take that has that catalyst effect for others.

So we spoke to Charles Duhigg, the Pulitzer Prize winning author who shared with us that he'd spent 15 years researching his book, Super Communicators.

And we said, distill 15 years of wisdom down into just a simple habit that any of us can take away.

And he spoke about every conversation is either a social, emotional or technical conversation.

So he sums it up as one of three H's.

Every conversation is either a request to be heard, to be helped or to be hugged.

And if you can work out which of those three conversations you're having with the other person, what we find is that you connect so much at a deeper level.