Damien Barrett

And again, I'll let people make up their own minds.

They can have a look on social media as to what they want to make of it.

But there is an incident where he was taken off and will now miss not just last night's game from that incident, but multiple weeks beyond that.

And then...

The Hawthorne perspective is interesting too, Jim, because obviously there's an issue over Jack Gunston, who has got a foot problem, which has caused him to miss recently.

And last night they then lost in the run, Carl Eamon with a knee and Jarman Impey with a hamstring, who both players have been huge this year off the halfback flank.

Impey has.

Impey's been brilliant, hasn't he?

Frio the night before, 13 wins, one loss, Bill, and just doing everything right.

Wayward early, but then Luke Jackson just continued his extraordinary form.

I'm trying to mount the case that he's a potential Brownlow medalist this year.

He's a star.

I hope they acknowledge, Jim, that this guy is as good as any player in the comp, and just hopefully the monopoly that has been the midfielder getting a Brownlow medal in recent years is broken this year, or at least acknowledged.

You can see that to the outside observer.

So they've got the buy.

They've got the buy.

They're 9-6.

It's not a scoreline that makes you think they're guaranteed to be top four.

And they've lost three of their past four to Carlton by four points, Adelaide by one point.

They then fixed up the Gold Coast after that game, and then obviously the nine-point loss to Fremantle.