Damien Echols

You know, for example, there was a guy that was on death row because his brother had committed a murder and he was taking the fall for his brother because his brother was at home taking care of their mom. And he's the whole thing. So, yeah, stuff like that. You also have people that are going to get out. One of them got out. One of them, I believe, was executed after I got out. Wow. Yeah.

I don't know. Well, I take that back. I think it's you've always had elements of society that want to keep people under their thumb, you know, that that don't want you to be fully conscious, you know, that that basically want you to remain in slavery for your entire life.

I don't know. Well, I take that back. I think it's you've always had elements of society that want to keep people under their thumb, you know, that that don't want you to be fully conscious, you know, that that basically want you to remain in slavery for your entire life.

I don't know. Well, I take that back. I think it's you've always had elements of society that want to keep people under their thumb, you know, that that don't want you to be fully conscious, you know, that that basically want you to remain in slavery for your entire life.

And they demonize things so that you don't look in places where you'll find something that's going to bring you out of that, that's going to wake you up from that. But that's exactly what magic is. I think one of the best descriptions I've ever heard of what you're doing whenever you are practicing this work was by Beethoven. And I'll mangle this.

And they demonize things so that you don't look in places where you'll find something that's going to bring you out of that, that's going to wake you up from that. But that's exactly what magic is. I think one of the best descriptions I've ever heard of what you're doing whenever you are practicing this work was by Beethoven. And I'll mangle this.

And they demonize things so that you don't look in places where you'll find something that's going to bring you out of that, that's going to wake you up from that. But that's exactly what magic is. I think one of the best descriptions I've ever heard of what you're doing whenever you are practicing this work was by Beethoven. And I'll mangle this.

I won't get it exactly right, but it was something along the lines of he said that the greatest thing that we could possibly hope to do is approach divinity as closely as we can, gather its rays, and disseminate them out to mankind. And different people are going to do that in different ways. You know, Beethoven obviously did it through his music. Other people may do it through writing.

I won't get it exactly right, but it was something along the lines of he said that the greatest thing that we could possibly hope to do is approach divinity as closely as we can, gather its rays, and disseminate them out to mankind. And different people are going to do that in different ways. You know, Beethoven obviously did it through his music. Other people may do it through writing.

I won't get it exactly right, but it was something along the lines of he said that the greatest thing that we could possibly hope to do is approach divinity as closely as we can, gather its rays, and disseminate them out to mankind. And different people are going to do that in different ways. You know, Beethoven obviously did it through his music. Other people may do it through writing.

Other people may do it through visual art. Other people may do it through podcasts. Whatever it is, it's a way—

Other people may do it through visual art. Other people may do it through podcasts. Whatever it is, it's a way—

Other people may do it through visual art. Other people may do it through podcasts. Whatever it is, it's a way—

But that's what you're doing when you're practicing magic. And you're doing the exact same thing that all the prophets in the Old Testament talk about in like this veiled language, you know, like in the book of Enoch and the prophet Ezekiel, you know, where they're talking about like, approaching the throne of God and all this sort of Jacob's ladder.

But that's what you're doing when you're practicing magic. And you're doing the exact same thing that all the prophets in the Old Testament talk about in like this veiled language, you know, like in the book of Enoch and the prophet Ezekiel, you know, where they're talking about like, approaching the throne of God and all this sort of Jacob's ladder.

But that's what you're doing when you're practicing magic. And you're doing the exact same thing that all the prophets in the Old Testament talk about in like this veiled language, you know, like in the book of Enoch and the prophet Ezekiel, you know, where they're talking about like, approaching the throne of God and all this sort of Jacob's ladder.

You know, that's what when you're talking about these these the levels of magic where you start off with the elements and then you move up through the planets and then the astrological work and the fixed stars, all of that, what you're doing is step by step ascending. In the Bible, they use the metaphor of Jacob's ladder. You know, Jacob goes to sleep and he sees this ladder that ascends from

You know, that's what when you're talking about these these the levels of magic where you start off with the elements and then you move up through the planets and then the astrological work and the fixed stars, all of that, what you're doing is step by step ascending. In the Bible, they use the metaphor of Jacob's ladder. You know, Jacob goes to sleep and he sees this ladder that ascends from

You know, that's what when you're talking about these these the levels of magic where you start off with the elements and then you move up through the planets and then the astrological work and the fixed stars, all of that, what you're doing is step by step ascending. In the Bible, they use the metaphor of Jacob's ladder. You know, Jacob goes to sleep and he sees this ladder that ascends from

earth to heaven and and there's these angels that are constantly coming up and going down ascending and descending like that's like a metaphor for this work climbing one rung at a time from each element to each planet to each astrological sign to each fixed star until you reach like the throne of of god and and bathe in that divine energy have you gotten there What's that like?