Damien Jordan

For sure, this is a long-term transition.

Do you not think it makes people lose faith in renewable and net zero?

Because, I mean, we're living in a world of innovation, AI, robots, all these things.

And we're like, can't we just be 100% renewable energy by 2050?

Shouldn't that be the goal, that we don't need gas at all?

We're fully renewable.

We don't need to import, buy from overseas.

We're just self-sustainable.

And everyone's getting cheap electricity and not damaging the environment.

But part of the problem with the renewable piece is the network is not able to deliver the energy where it's needed, right?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we generate quite a lot of renewable energy, say, in Scotland.

The windy, wet parts of the UK.

But then where it's needed in the south, we can't get it there.

So we have to turn on a gas power station to supply that energy.

That is correct.

And we actually pay...

Is the technology there?

Could we be, in theory, fully renewable and move energy around the country in an efficient manner?

Is that possible in today's world, or are we looking for certain technologies to deliver

You dig it all up and then you put it back in the ground.