Damien Tanner

the craft that went into especially the Rails community.

And we were able to build incredible web-based software.

And then we've gone through the commercialization, industrialization of SaaS.

And what gets me really excited is now when we're, you know, we run this AI engineer London branch and incredible communities come together and it's got that energy again.

And I guess the energy is very exciting.

There's new stuff.

Everyone can play a part in it.

And we're also just all completely working it out.

And it's like, you've got the, you know, folks on the main stage of the conference, and then you've got, we'll chat about it later, maybe like Jeffrey Huntley posting his meme Ralph Wiggum blog post.

It's like the crazy ideas and innovation is kind of coming from anywhere, which is brilliant.

Pusher was basically a WebSockets push API.

So you could push anything to your web app in real time.

So just things like notifications into your application.

We ended up having a bunch of customers, maybe in finance or crypto or any kind of area where you needed live updating pricing.

In the early days, at one point, Uber was using Pusher to update the cars in real time before they built their own infra.

Um, and it was, it was funny.

I remember the standup cause we ran a consultancy where we were chatting about the web sockets in browsers and we're like, Oh, this, this is cool.

How can we use this?

And the problem is, you know, we, we were all building rails apps.

So like, okay, we need, we need like a separate thing, which manages all the web socket connections to the client.