Dan Caplinger

They had the Waymo, they had the Amazon products.

There's all kinds of cars competing for eye time in the big markets, but not seeing passengers in them for the most part yet.

I think that the younger generations are much more willing, much less excited about driving themselves, much more excited about putting the time of their commute to work.

I do think

That all of this, yes, it's been a long time coming.

Yes, regulation has been slow.

Yes, the promises have outpaced the reality.

But I do think that we eventually get there.

And I'm also heartened by the work that we saw recently over the past week or two from Joby Aviation, finally getting that electric vehicle takeoff and vertical takeoff and landing.

experiment from a Manhattan helipad out to a JFK airport on Long Island.

That is a fascinating area for me.

That's probably not a 10-year item.

That is probably a 20, 25-year item.

But yeah, I do think autonomous driving is coming and there will be huge demand for it from people who are not like me, but who are much happier not letting somebody else take care of the transportation floor.

You're it's already happening, Travis.

I mean, you're going to do the right thing.

You're going to teach your kids the skills that they need to live.

That's right.

That's right.

You got to know how to do the stick shift just in case.