Dan Carlin

When Walter Cronkite and those guys were doing news, it was a requirement to own your broadcast license. And yet they tried to figure out a way to make it pay. And all of a sudden, Walter Cronkite would be selling cigarettes in the middle of the newscast. Right. People forget about that. Or Edward R. Murrow goes from interviewing movers and shakers to the latest movie star.

When Walter Cronkite and those guys were doing news, it was a requirement to own your broadcast license. And yet they tried to figure out a way to make it pay. And all of a sudden, Walter Cronkite would be selling cigarettes in the middle of the newscast. Right. People forget about that. Or Edward R. Murrow goes from interviewing movers and shakers to the latest movie star.

When Walter Cronkite and those guys were doing news, it was a requirement to own your broadcast license. And yet they tried to figure out a way to make it pay. And all of a sudden, Walter Cronkite would be selling cigarettes in the middle of the newscast. Right. People forget about that. Or Edward R. Murrow goes from interviewing movers and shakers to the latest movie star.

People forget about that, too. But then once you get past that period, you forget that now this is ratings. Right. Right. This isn't we got to do 15 minutes of news as part of our public service to keep our broadcast license. And you have to be dragged kicking and screaming into doing it. It's also not the era where you and I both came up in when I was at ABC.

People forget about that, too. But then once you get past that period, you forget that now this is ratings. Right. Right. This isn't we got to do 15 minutes of news as part of our public service to keep our broadcast license. And you have to be dragged kicking and screaming into doing it. It's also not the era where you and I both came up in when I was at ABC.

People forget about that, too. But then once you get past that period, you forget that now this is ratings. Right. Right. This isn't we got to do 15 minutes of news as part of our public service to keep our broadcast license. And you have to be dragged kicking and screaming into doing it. It's also not the era where you and I both came up in when I was at ABC.

We had to have confirmation from our own people before we went on with anything. And you couldn't quote another. First of all, you wouldn't want to quote another news station. Last thing you wanted to do in the era before, you know, taping and videotapes and stuff was to tell somebody to change the channel. So we would have our own people confirm everything.

We had to have confirmation from our own people before we went on with anything. And you couldn't quote another. First of all, you wouldn't want to quote another news station. Last thing you wanted to do in the era before, you know, taping and videotapes and stuff was to tell somebody to change the channel. So we would have our own people confirm everything.

We had to have confirmation from our own people before we went on with anything. And you couldn't quote another. First of all, you wouldn't want to quote another news station. Last thing you wanted to do in the era before, you know, taping and videotapes and stuff was to tell somebody to change the channel. So we would have our own people confirm everything.

So at no point would we at ABC go on and say, well, NBC News is reporting this. It looks terrible, right? So when that happens, there's a certain level of trust that goes with it.

So at no point would we at ABC go on and say, well, NBC News is reporting this. It looks terrible, right? So when that happens, there's a certain level of trust that goes with it.

So at no point would we at ABC go on and say, well, NBC News is reporting this. It looks terrible, right? So when that happens, there's a certain level of trust that goes with it.

When those guys can simply say, hey, somebody else whose ass is on the line if this isn't real is saying this, but we're going to piggyback on the story and tell you about it anyway, quoting them, that's a bizarro world to the news world I grew up in. But all of those decisions, by the time I'm in news, are all financial, are all ratings related, are all audience related.

When those guys can simply say, hey, somebody else whose ass is on the line if this isn't real is saying this, but we're going to piggyback on the story and tell you about it anyway, quoting them, that's a bizarro world to the news world I grew up in. But all of those decisions, by the time I'm in news, are all financial, are all ratings related, are all audience related.

When those guys can simply say, hey, somebody else whose ass is on the line if this isn't real is saying this, but we're going to piggyback on the story and tell you about it anyway, quoting them, that's a bizarro world to the news world I grew up in. But all of those decisions, by the time I'm in news, are all financial, are all ratings related, are all audience related.

To piggyback on the story you said, though, about these guys looking in the teleprompter, I will never forget, and every newsroom in America has something like this. In Los Angeles, it's earthquakes. So you have cameras for like quick little things.

To piggyback on the story you said, though, about these guys looking in the teleprompter, I will never forget, and every newsroom in America has something like this. In Los Angeles, it's earthquakes. So you have cameras for like quick little things.

To piggyback on the story you said, though, about these guys looking in the teleprompter, I will never forget, and every newsroom in America has something like this. In Los Angeles, it's earthquakes. So you have cameras for like quick little things.

I don't even remember what we call it, like Instacams or all these things that are sitting in the room, right, where you can do an update or a news tease or whatever. Right. But when the earthquake happens in Los Angeles, the entire newsroom stops.

I don't even remember what we call it, like Instacams or all these things that are sitting in the room, right, where you can do an update or a news tease or whatever. Right. But when the earthquake happens in Los Angeles, the entire newsroom stops.