Dan Carlin

The biggest part of the show is probably about something that needs to be talked about more anyway. And not by design, just by where the conversation went. And, you know, I think good conversation is a dying art. But I'm getting older and it's normal to look back on the good old days and say, back in my day, we'd have long, deep conversations with people that were stimulating, right?

Um, but they're particularly good if you happen to be, uh, just finding the open spot at the cocktail party. And if you're a wallflower like I am, you sit on the couch and you turn, you realize you're going to have to talk to the person next to you for a while. And it turns out to be, uh, Rick Rubin or somebody like that. We had a show we did with him and

Um, but they're particularly good if you happen to be, uh, just finding the open spot at the cocktail party. And if you're a wallflower like I am, you sit on the couch and you turn, you realize you're going to have to talk to the person next to you for a while. And it turns out to be, uh, Rick Rubin or somebody like that. We had a show we did with him and

Um, but they're particularly good if you happen to be, uh, just finding the open spot at the cocktail party. And if you're a wallflower like I am, you sit on the couch and you turn, you realize you're going to have to talk to the person next to you for a while. And it turns out to be, uh, Rick Rubin or somebody like that. We had a show we did with him and

It's hard to have a bad conversation with him. So just, you know, I always say half the battle here in choosing a hardcore history topic is the topic. You pick an Alexander the Great. You're far ahead of the game because the story is already good. Now it's yours to screw up. You have Rick on the show and it's, you know, if the conversation is not good, it's your fault.

It's hard to have a bad conversation with him. So just, you know, I always say half the battle here in choosing a hardcore history topic is the topic. You pick an Alexander the Great. You're far ahead of the game because the story is already good. Now it's yours to screw up. You have Rick on the show and it's, you know, if the conversation is not good, it's your fault.

It's hard to have a bad conversation with him. So just, you know, I always say half the battle here in choosing a hardcore history topic is the topic. You pick an Alexander the Great. You're far ahead of the game because the story is already good. Now it's yours to screw up. You have Rick on the show and it's, you know, if the conversation is not good, it's your fault.

I feel like that about today's guest. who is so multi-talented. He's done so many different things. He's got a podcast called The Way I Heard It, and I was on that twice. And that's when I resolved, okay, well, I'd like my audience to hear a conversation between us two.

I feel like that about today's guest. who is so multi-talented. He's done so many different things. He's got a podcast called The Way I Heard It, and I was on that twice. And that's when I resolved, okay, well, I'd like my audience to hear a conversation between us two.

I feel like that about today's guest. who is so multi-talented. He's done so many different things. He's got a podcast called The Way I Heard It, and I was on that twice. And that's when I resolved, okay, well, I'd like my audience to hear a conversation between us two.

And we focused, as I was about to say, before I was so rudely interrupted by myself and my own train of thought, we focused on what, for lack of a better term, you always hate when the communists take over a word or something because then it acquires all sorts of... aspects to it that you don't mean.

And we focused, as I was about to say, before I was so rudely interrupted by myself and my own train of thought, we focused on what, for lack of a better term, you always hate when the communists take over a word or something because then it acquires all sorts of... aspects to it that you don't mean.

And we focused, as I was about to say, before I was so rudely interrupted by myself and my own train of thought, we focused on what, for lack of a better term, you always hate when the communists take over a word or something because then it acquires all sorts of... aspects to it that you don't mean.

But I mean, the working class in this country, the people who, you know, that Mike focuses on in his show, Dirty Jobs, the people that make the country sort of operate and the need that we have for those people. So one of the things Mike focuses on in every conversation I've had with him is how much society has more of a demand than we can supply right now in terms of people who do these things.

But I mean, the working class in this country, the people who, you know, that Mike focuses on in his show, Dirty Jobs, the people that make the country sort of operate and the need that we have for those people. So one of the things Mike focuses on in every conversation I've had with him is how much society has more of a demand than we can supply right now in terms of people who do these things.

But I mean, the working class in this country, the people who, you know, that Mike focuses on in his show, Dirty Jobs, the people that make the country sort of operate and the need that we have for those people. So one of the things Mike focuses on in every conversation I've had with him is how much society has more of a demand than we can supply right now in terms of people who do these things.

And then the other side of that coin, which is, if anything, even more important, which is the number of people in this society that would benefit from going into this line of work and maybe don't know how much they'd benefit from it.

And then the other side of that coin, which is, if anything, even more important, which is the number of people in this society that would benefit from going into this line of work and maybe don't know how much they'd benefit from it.

And then the other side of that coin, which is, if anything, even more important, which is the number of people in this society that would benefit from going into this line of work and maybe don't know how much they'd benefit from it.

And so as a person who believes that in a healthy society, especially a healthy democratic republic like ours, making sure that that particular class of people is a healthy segment of your society is part of keeping the ballast of your society where you need it, right? It anchors society sort of to some important roots. And if you lose that or it suffers or it degrades or degenerates,