Dan Carlin

Okay, but let me tell you what I'm hearing here, and this might be worth getting into. See, to me, when I hear this, and, you know, you live in California. I'm from California, Southern California. And the one thing that I'm hearing there is I'm seeing the lines cross between need and immigration.

Okay, but let me tell you what I'm hearing here, and this might be worth getting into. See, to me, when I hear this, and, you know, you live in California. I'm from California, Southern California. And the one thing that I'm hearing there is I'm seeing the lines cross between need and immigration.

Okay, but let me tell you what I'm hearing here, and this might be worth getting into. See, to me, when I hear this, and, you know, you live in California. I'm from California, Southern California. And the one thing that I'm hearing there is I'm seeing the lines cross between need and immigration.

How do those two, because when you say that, I'm thinking of the things that, you know, I remember when Ronald Reagan tried to overhaul the immigration stuff in the middle 1980s and the big pushback came from employers, you know, one state near the border, right? One state near the Rio Grande or one state near San Diego's, you know, border, whatever it might be.

How do those two, because when you say that, I'm thinking of the things that, you know, I remember when Ronald Reagan tried to overhaul the immigration stuff in the middle 1980s and the big pushback came from employers, you know, one state near the border, right? One state near the Rio Grande or one state near San Diego's, you know, border, whatever it might be.

How do those two, because when you say that, I'm thinking of the things that, you know, I remember when Ronald Reagan tried to overhaul the immigration stuff in the middle 1980s and the big pushback came from employers, you know, one state near the border, right? One state near the Rio Grande or one state near San Diego's, you know, border, whatever it might be.

And those people were saying, hey, we have jobs that need filling. Now, I remember the debate at the time about, centered around, you know, do you just not want to pay Americans the same? You know, you want to bring in lower paid workers so that you can undercut them.

And those people were saying, hey, we have jobs that need filling. Now, I remember the debate at the time about, centered around, you know, do you just not want to pay Americans the same? You know, you want to bring in lower paid workers so that you can undercut them.

And those people were saying, hey, we have jobs that need filling. Now, I remember the debate at the time about, centered around, you know, do you just not want to pay Americans the same? You know, you want to bring in lower paid workers so that you can undercut them.

But the bottom line is there was not a huge number of people, for example, wanting to get into the fast food industry for the long haul, right? You could get a kid like yours truly because I did all those jobs. I did a lot of dirty jobs, Mike, but I did the fast food thing. And it's not the kind of thing where I'm going to be there for 25 years if I can help it.

But the bottom line is there was not a huge number of people, for example, wanting to get into the fast food industry for the long haul, right? You could get a kid like yours truly because I did all those jobs. I did a lot of dirty jobs, Mike, but I did the fast food thing. And it's not the kind of thing where I'm going to be there for 25 years if I can help it.

But the bottom line is there was not a huge number of people, for example, wanting to get into the fast food industry for the long haul, right? You could get a kid like yours truly because I did all those jobs. I did a lot of dirty jobs, Mike, but I did the fast food thing. And it's not the kind of thing where I'm going to be there for 25 years if I can help it.

But a lot of the people I worked with, some of whom were from south of the border, they took that job so much more seriously that the employer would look at them and go, hmm, I'm going to invest a year training this guy and then he's going to leave. Whereas I can have this young lady from south of the border. I'm going to give her this job and she's not going to leave till I tell her she has to.

But a lot of the people I worked with, some of whom were from south of the border, they took that job so much more seriously that the employer would look at them and go, hmm, I'm going to invest a year training this guy and then he's going to leave. Whereas I can have this young lady from south of the border. I'm going to give her this job and she's not going to leave till I tell her she has to.

But a lot of the people I worked with, some of whom were from south of the border, they took that job so much more seriously that the employer would look at them and go, hmm, I'm going to invest a year training this guy and then he's going to leave. Whereas I can have this young lady from south of the border. I'm going to give her this job and she's not going to leave till I tell her she has to.

Where does the line between, oh, my God, we don't we have all these positions that need filling and the people that can fill them domestically are in the eighth grade versus, OK, well, we're going to throw a lot of people out of the country. And there's a difference, obviously, between undocumented and documented, the ones who get the Elon Musk visa versus the ones who don't get.

Where does the line between, oh, my God, we don't we have all these positions that need filling and the people that can fill them domestically are in the eighth grade versus, OK, well, we're going to throw a lot of people out of the country. And there's a difference, obviously, between undocumented and documented, the ones who get the Elon Musk visa versus the ones who don't get.

Where does the line between, oh, my God, we don't we have all these positions that need filling and the people that can fill them domestically are in the eighth grade versus, OK, well, we're going to throw a lot of people out of the country. And there's a difference, obviously, between undocumented and documented, the ones who get the Elon Musk visa versus the ones who don't get.

But but how do those lines cross, Mike, when you work with these open jobs and the need to get more people who maybe have skills in the game? I mean, where do those lines cross in your mind?

But but how do those lines cross, Mike, when you work with these open jobs and the need to get more people who maybe have skills in the game? I mean, where do those lines cross in your mind?