Dan Carlin

And so if you say that we live in a world where people like my brother are always going to make an inferior living, he's just never going to get to those jobs where it's all mental and creative. And although that's a silly thing to say, because my brother would tell you that the different ways to build something or fix a car, it all involves the same level of creativity, just applied differently.

And so if you say that we live in a world where people like my brother are always going to make an inferior living, he's just never going to get to those jobs where it's all mental and creative. And although that's a silly thing to say, because my brother would tell you that the different ways to build something or fix a car, it all involves the same level of creativity, just applied differently.

And so if you say that we live in a world where people like my brother are always going to make an inferior living, he's just never going to get to those jobs where it's all mental and creative. And although that's a silly thing to say, because my brother would tell you that the different ways to build something or fix a car, it all involves the same level of creativity, just applied differently.

But the point is, is that by building by realizing that we all need avenues and different avenues work for people with different skills and tendencies and qualities. I think that's really valuable because I think what happens when you don't is you leave lots of people behind, right? And I think what you're arguing for, and I think it does get a little bit lost in the union versus non-union.

But the point is, is that by building by realizing that we all need avenues and different avenues work for people with different skills and tendencies and qualities. I think that's really valuable because I think what happens when you don't is you leave lots of people behind, right? And I think what you're arguing for, and I think it does get a little bit lost in the union versus non-union.

But the point is, is that by building by realizing that we all need avenues and different avenues work for people with different skills and tendencies and qualities. I think that's really valuable because I think what happens when you don't is you leave lots of people behind, right? And I think what you're arguing for, and I think it does get a little bit lost in the union versus non-union.

The whole idea is we have lots of people, like you said, the line that sticks with me that you've hit me with over and over is how much these people can make and how few people realize that. A guy lived across the street from me. He moved now, but he was a he was one of those electricians that doesn't do like consumer work. He works for like the new home.

The whole idea is we have lots of people, like you said, the line that sticks with me that you've hit me with over and over is how much these people can make and how few people realize that. A guy lived across the street from me. He moved now, but he was a he was one of those electricians that doesn't do like consumer work. He works for like the new home.

The whole idea is we have lots of people, like you said, the line that sticks with me that you've hit me with over and over is how much these people can make and how few people realize that. A guy lived across the street from me. He moved now, but he was a he was one of those electricians that doesn't do like consumer work. He works for like the new home.

So they're building new homes and he's just doing a bunch of them at once. He makes a fantastic living. Right. High school grad. The whole thing works with his hands. He comes over and fixes things for me when I need stuff and doesn't charge me. I mean, salt of the earth kind of guy. But you need a place for everybody like that. And he's made an amazing life.

So they're building new homes and he's just doing a bunch of them at once. He makes a fantastic living. Right. High school grad. The whole thing works with his hands. He comes over and fixes things for me when I need stuff and doesn't charge me. I mean, salt of the earth kind of guy. But you need a place for everybody like that. And he's made an amazing life.

So they're building new homes and he's just doing a bunch of them at once. He makes a fantastic living. Right. High school grad. The whole thing works with his hands. He comes over and fixes things for me when I need stuff and doesn't charge me. I mean, salt of the earth kind of guy. But you need a place for everybody like that. And he's made an amazing life.

But if you had said to him, I'm sorry, you need to go this route and I'm going to filter you down where I think you should go, he would not be anywhere near as successful. So I love the fact that you're taking a giant swath of society that for a lot of human history had logical outlets for their talents. And we're in an artificially constrained time.

But if you had said to him, I'm sorry, you need to go this route and I'm going to filter you down where I think you should go, he would not be anywhere near as successful. So I love the fact that you're taking a giant swath of society that for a lot of human history had logical outlets for their talents. And we're in an artificially constrained time.

But if you had said to him, I'm sorry, you need to go this route and I'm going to filter you down where I think you should go, he would not be anywhere near as successful. So I love the fact that you're taking a giant swath of society that for a lot of human history had logical outlets for their talents. And we're in an artificially constrained time.

And like you said, not just artificially constrained, but really almost like a phantom

And like you said, not just artificially constrained, but really almost like a phantom

And like you said, not just artificially constrained, but really almost like a phantom

fake image of what it is right like you said if you told somebody you can make 250 000 a year as an electrician there's gonna be a lot of people out there that go really you know and that's a light bulb moment and so i don't think enough people are turning on that light bulb and you've done you you hit that so hard that that stayed with me so when this conversation's over and i can't remember one thing we said other than my wife's story in the live shot i'm gonna remember the fact that you know that we have these jobs out there where people could be making really good middle class maybe even upper middle class living

fake image of what it is right like you said if you told somebody you can make 250 000 a year as an electrician there's gonna be a lot of people out there that go really you know and that's a light bulb moment and so i don't think enough people are turning on that light bulb and you've done you you hit that so hard that that stayed with me so when this conversation's over and i can't remember one thing we said other than my wife's story in the live shot i'm gonna remember the fact that you know that we have these jobs out there where people could be making really good middle class maybe even upper middle class living