Dan Charles

Those are the rules.

And Mike says the rules should change, that data centers should have to pay up front for the power lines they need, just like solar farms.

Yeah, it actually is possible, I think.

Data centers are not popular these days.

They're running into more and more opposition.

And just a few weeks ago, the Trump administration actually called for a new federal rule that would require new data centers to pay the costs involved in connecting them to the grid.

Oh, wow.

That's a big shift.

Yeah, it was kind of a shock because the Trump administration has been very enthusiastic about AI.

Mike Jacobs says it's not really clear if there will be any such rule because this has always been something that state regulators had control over, not the federal government.

So all I can say is, Emily, stay tuned.

Thanks for having me on the show.