Dan Elitzer

Absolutely.

But I think it's also unrealistic to say that we're going to have, even if we'd

Ethereum had executed perfectly, right?

We scaled L1 much better.

We actually have canonical bridges with all these L2s on Ethereum and we got all the stuff we want from that roadmap.

There are still going to be other chains, right?

There's too much incentive to have multiple L1s that are making different design trade-offs and different go-to-market trade-offs, different trust trade-offs.

And...

because we're going to have meaningful assets on multiple chains, there's going to need to be some way to connect those.

Could we connect them better?

Yes, but it's not all going to happen natively within one L1 plus its own native L2 ecosystem.

We have to have solutions that are reasonable solutions to use to bridge assets across much more kind of varied chains.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I think even that, though, it's not guaranteed free from failure.

Right.

There could be problems in the ZK cryptography or in the implementation, any additional layer of complexity, more things can break.

And so I think we just need to do a better job of

of both pricing that risk that's coming in and also building in layers of redundancy, right?

One of the things that the Athena team did, they are also using layer zero.