Dan Engber

I mean, I think sometimes the counter-narratives are true, and it is good when they get an airing and become ascendant. It's just, I think what is interesting to me to observe is the way it's like open season on counter-narratives, right? And so you're seeing this negotiation among... adherence to counter narratives and it's playing out even like in the federal government.

I mean, I think sometimes the counter-narratives are true, and it is good when they get an airing and become ascendant. It's just, I think what is interesting to me to observe is the way it's like open season on counter-narratives, right? And so you're seeing this negotiation among... adherence to counter narratives and it's playing out even like in the federal government.

I mean, I think sometimes the counter-narratives are true, and it is good when they get an airing and become ascendant. It's just, I think what is interesting to me to observe is the way it's like open season on counter-narratives, right? And so you're seeing this negotiation among... adherence to counter narratives and it's playing out even like in the federal government.

And so it's become, I mean, just to give one example, I'm sorry, this is going to sound far afield, but I think it speaks to the central point here. So we have an anti-vaccine activist in charge of health and human services. There's also, we're going to have a COVID contrarian take over the National Institutes of Health.

And so it's become, I mean, just to give one example, I'm sorry, this is going to sound far afield, but I think it speaks to the central point here. So we have an anti-vaccine activist in charge of health and human services. There's also, we're going to have a COVID contrarian take over the National Institutes of Health.

And so it's become, I mean, just to give one example, I'm sorry, this is going to sound far afield, but I think it speaks to the central point here. So we have an anti-vaccine activist in charge of health and human services. There's also, we're going to have a COVID contrarian take over the National Institutes of Health.

Both those people, Jay Bhattacharya and RFK Jr., are into essentially paleo diets and the idea that carbohydrates are what's causing so much chronic disease in this country, as I understand it, okay? So now maybe you're getting this other group that has been making this counter-narrative argument about nutrition, that the problem is not calorie intake but sugars, right?

Both those people, Jay Bhattacharya and RFK Jr., are into essentially paleo diets and the idea that carbohydrates are what's causing so much chronic disease in this country, as I understand it, okay? So now maybe you're getting this other group that has been making this counter-narrative argument about nutrition, that the problem is not calorie intake but sugars, right?

Both those people, Jay Bhattacharya and RFK Jr., are into essentially paleo diets and the idea that carbohydrates are what's causing so much chronic disease in this country, as I understand it, okay? So now maybe you're getting this other group that has been making this counter-narrative argument about nutrition, that the problem is not calorie intake but sugars, right?

Like, now they have a foot in with this administration. This is just like somehow there's, you know, common cause between the sugar is toxic crowd and the anti-vaccine crowd and the, you know, like COVID contrarians. And as I have said, like, you can draw these connections over into the world of spellers and telepathy. Like, I just think...

Like, now they have a foot in with this administration. This is just like somehow there's, you know, common cause between the sugar is toxic crowd and the anti-vaccine crowd and the, you know, like COVID contrarians. And as I have said, like, you can draw these connections over into the world of spellers and telepathy. Like, I just think...

Like, now they have a foot in with this administration. This is just like somehow there's, you know, common cause between the sugar is toxic crowd and the anti-vaccine crowd and the, you know, like COVID contrarians. And as I have said, like, you can draw these connections over into the world of spellers and telepathy. Like, I just think...

if you mapped out all of these different groups with their own hobby horses, some of which I think are reasonable, like the reasonable arguments to have about what nutritional policy should be. But there's just these new alliances. That's what's interesting to me about this moment.

if you mapped out all of these different groups with their own hobby horses, some of which I think are reasonable, like the reasonable arguments to have about what nutritional policy should be. But there's just these new alliances. That's what's interesting to me about this moment.

if you mapped out all of these different groups with their own hobby horses, some of which I think are reasonable, like the reasonable arguments to have about what nutritional policy should be. But there's just these new alliances. That's what's interesting to me about this moment.

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