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Dan Epps

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3246 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Jezebel Shouting

And it's going to dial that back and sayโ€”

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Jezebel Shouting

That broad way you're reading that prior decision can't be right.

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Jezebel Shouting

Because if you're taking it that seriously, it would even mean some other person could never go sue to get this statute struck down because it might impugn the conviction of this guy.

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Jezebel Shouting

But I think that's a reasonable objection.

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Jezebel Shouting

I mean, I think that the court seems to be saying any decision that somehow by implication would suggest that an earlier conviction was unconstitutional would fall under the broad way these courts have read the rule.

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Jezebel Shouting

I do think you can draw a distinction there.

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Jezebel Shouting

But apparently everyone found that a totally persuasive argument.

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Jezebel Shouting

It came up at oral argument and it just seemed like it stumped everybody.

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Jezebel Shouting

Constitutional common law.

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Jezebel Shouting

One interesting wrinkle, the advocate who won at the Supreme Court was a lawyer from Gibson Dunn named Alison Ho, who is married to Judge Ho in the Fifth Circuit, who dissented.

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Jezebel Shouting

So she kind of went to the Supreme Court and vindicated his dissent.

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Jezebel Shouting

Are you allowed to do that?

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Jezebel Shouting

I can't, I don't think she represented this plaintiff in, before the Fifth Circuit, because I think that then her husband would have to recuse.

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Jezebel Shouting

That's a rare privilege, I guess.

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Jezebel Shouting

So maybe that's an advantage that Judge Ho has in the horse race for the next Supreme Court vacancy.

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Well, we will find out if there's a vacancy this summer that a lot of people are predicting, but the court does like to surprise us and the justices don't always retire on the schedule that people want them to retire on.