Dan Flores

Then we have a period where we go for 10,000 years in the West, and it looks as if native people in particular are... pretty benevolent. I mean, there's only one extinction during that time period. And I try to figure out why that is, how it happened that way.

And then a lot of the rest of the episodes have to do with a kind of an exploratory first contact experience from people like Lewis and Clark, for example. and a whole host of people later in the 19th century. And also with what transpires in a West in the 19th century with all this abundant wildlife where there are really no rules, no regulations, it's just kind of a free for all.

And then a lot of the rest of the episodes have to do with a kind of an exploratory first contact experience from people like Lewis and Clark, for example. and a whole host of people later in the 19th century. And also with what transpires in a West in the 19th century with all this abundant wildlife where there are really no rules, no regulations, it's just kind of a free for all.

And then a lot of the rest of the episodes have to do with a kind of an exploratory first contact experience from people like Lewis and Clark, for example. and a whole host of people later in the 19th century. And also with what transpires in a West in the 19th century with all this abundant wildlife where there are really no rules, no regulations, it's just kind of a free for all.

pretty much what you would predict for a free-for-all. Things don't turn out all that great for a lot of the animals and, of course, a lot of the native people either. But it's those stories in contrast to Marshall Dillon and town building and the California gold rush, the Mormon settlement of Utah. These are the things that I've been writing about for 35 years, basically.

pretty much what you would predict for a free-for-all. Things don't turn out all that great for a lot of the animals and, of course, a lot of the native people either. But it's those stories in contrast to Marshall Dillon and town building and the California gold rush, the Mormon settlement of Utah. These are the things that I've been writing about for 35 years, basically.

pretty much what you would predict for a free-for-all. Things don't turn out all that great for a lot of the animals and, of course, a lot of the native people either. But it's those stories in contrast to Marshall Dillon and town building and the California gold rush, the Mormon settlement of Utah. These are the things that I've been writing about for 35 years, basically.

I never was interested much because other people had already done it to write about the mining rushes or the Indian Wars. I was always looking for something different and new to write about that I thought would sort of tell a story that nobody quite knew yet. And that's really what this podcast does.

I never was interested much because other people had already done it to write about the mining rushes or the Indian Wars. I was always looking for something different and new to write about that I thought would sort of tell a story that nobody quite knew yet. And that's really what this podcast does.

I never was interested much because other people had already done it to write about the mining rushes or the Indian Wars. I was always looking for something different and new to write about that I thought would sort of tell a story that nobody quite knew yet. And that's really what this podcast does.

Well, I explain it in three ways, I guess. One is that starting in 1800, a lot of the expeditions into the West are government expeditions. And those people are given specific instructions to keep a record, keep a really close record. I mean, Jefferson tells Lewis and Clark, for example, you know, any animals that you see that aren't found in the maritime states, collect them.

Well, I explain it in three ways, I guess. One is that starting in 1800, a lot of the expeditions into the West are government expeditions. And those people are given specific instructions to keep a record, keep a really close record. I mean, Jefferson tells Lewis and Clark, for example, you know, any animals that you see that aren't found in the maritime states, collect them.

Well, I explain it in three ways, I guess. One is that starting in 1800, a lot of the expeditions into the West are government expeditions. And those people are given specific instructions to keep a record, keep a really close record. I mean, Jefferson tells Lewis and Clark, for example, you know, any animals that you see that aren't found in the maritime states, collect them.

write a description, learn as much about their natural history as you can. And I think that's one of the things. I think another thing is that there are a lot of Europeans coming over in the early 19th century. The Thomas Nuttalls, the John Bradberries. And those guys tend to look at darkest North America sort of the way the Brits were looking at Africa then.

write a description, learn as much about their natural history as you can. And I think that's one of the things. I think another thing is that there are a lot of Europeans coming over in the early 19th century. The Thomas Nuttalls, the John Bradberries. And those guys tend to look at darkest North America sort of the way the Brits were looking at Africa then.

write a description, learn as much about their natural history as you can. And I think that's one of the things. I think another thing is that there are a lot of Europeans coming over in the early 19th century. The Thomas Nuttalls, the John Bradberries. And those guys tend to look at darkest North America sort of the way the Brits were looking at Africa then.

where, wow, man, this is some amazing part of the world that none of us has ever seen. And so we've got to keep a record of all of it. We've got to preserve what it looks like. And I think, really... there was an actual market for literary work about the West starting around probably as early as 1810.

where, wow, man, this is some amazing part of the world that none of us has ever seen. And so we've got to keep a record of all of it. We've got to preserve what it looks like. And I think, really... there was an actual market for literary work about the West starting around probably as early as 1810.

where, wow, man, this is some amazing part of the world that none of us has ever seen. And so we've got to keep a record of all of it. We've got to preserve what it looks like. And I think, really... there was an actual market for literary work about the West starting around probably as early as 1810.

And I think the, you know, the Nicholas Biddle journals of the Lewis and Clark expedition, which came out in 1814, I mean, those things sold like hotcakes in the East. And I think that made people understand that, wow, okay, all I got to do is go out to the West, you know, and write some some account.