Dan Flores

Yeah, he's got some good details. Yeah, he does have some good details. And I mean, who knows? What I think, for example, with people like that, like Patty and maybe like John Maley, is they actually did. I think Maley knew enough to convince me that he had talked to people.

Yeah, he's got some good details. Yeah, he does have some good details. And I mean, who knows? What I think, for example, with people like that, like Patty and maybe like John Maley, is they actually did. I think Maley knew enough to convince me that he had talked to people.

Yeah, he's got some good details. Yeah, he does have some good details. And I mean, who knows? What I think, for example, with people like that, like Patty and maybe like John Maley, is they actually did. I think Maley knew enough to convince me that he had talked to people.

He had talked to people who knew about it, but when he started going up the Red River and started describing the landmarks, I mean, I could tell by the time you got to about the third or fourth day, this guy ain't nowhere on any Red River that existed then or now.

He had talked to people who knew about it, but when he started going up the Red River and started describing the landmarks, I mean, I could tell by the time you got to about the third or fourth day, this guy ain't nowhere on any Red River that existed then or now.

He had talked to people who knew about it, but when he started going up the Red River and started describing the landmarks, I mean, I could tell by the time you got to about the third or fourth day, this guy ain't nowhere on any Red River that existed then or now.

I mean, so it was, you know, it's a market for stuff, and it produces a huge abundance of material to use, but some of it you have to be careful with.

I mean, so it was, you know, it's a market for stuff, and it produces a huge abundance of material to use, but some of it you have to be careful with.

I mean, so it was, you know, it's a market for stuff, and it produces a huge abundance of material to use, but some of it you have to be careful with.

where we have no written accounts. All we have to go on is archaeology and material culture objects. And now genetics, obviously, that story about the 14 people who are all related to one another, buried in a single room in Pueblo Bonito. That... Makes the whole story of telling the deep time history of the West even more difficult because now you don't really have you may have.

where we have no written accounts. All we have to go on is archaeology and material culture objects. And now genetics, obviously, that story about the 14 people who are all related to one another, buried in a single room in Pueblo Bonito. That... Makes the whole story of telling the deep time history of the West even more difficult because now you don't really have you may have.

where we have no written accounts. All we have to go on is archaeology and material culture objects. And now genetics, obviously, that story about the 14 people who are all related to one another, buried in a single room in Pueblo Bonito. That... Makes the whole story of telling the deep time history of the West even more difficult because now you don't really have you may have.

I mean, and I have used them this way. There are great coyote stories going back thousands of years, and I have occasionally used a coyote story associated with a particular group that. I think would make a point about them, but that's literally the only kind of storytelling you get. It's oral history.

I mean, and I have used them this way. There are great coyote stories going back thousands of years, and I have occasionally used a coyote story associated with a particular group that. I think would make a point about them, but that's literally the only kind of storytelling you get. It's oral history.

I mean, and I have used them this way. There are great coyote stories going back thousands of years, and I have occasionally used a coyote story associated with a particular group that. I think would make a point about them, but that's literally the only kind of storytelling you get. It's oral history.

And so you have to, you have to approach things that way as, you know, really carefully, but that's where my, that's where my observation, I guess, falls apart.

And so you have to, you have to approach things that way as, you know, really carefully, but that's where my, that's where my observation, I guess, falls apart.

And so you have to, you have to approach things that way as, you know, really carefully, but that's where my, that's where my observation, I guess, falls apart.

So what we're grappling with then is, you know, so people got into Chaco in the 1850s for the first time, 1850s, 1860s. And so we've essentially got 170 years of archaeological speculation. Mm-hmm. And so the way you try to figure it out is you sort of track that story through to hopefully the most recent versions of, well, here's what it kind of looks like what happened.

So what we're grappling with then is, you know, so people got into Chaco in the 1850s for the first time, 1850s, 1860s. And so we've essentially got 170 years of archaeological speculation. Mm-hmm. And so the way you try to figure it out is you sort of track that story through to hopefully the most recent versions of, well, here's what it kind of looks like what happened.