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Dan Flores

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1670 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

Yet the more Rice learned, the more experience he had, the more he thought it critical to portray the post-frontier world of his Indian subjects as opposed to Old West nostalgia.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

For Curtis, the arrow of time flew backwards into a retreating past.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

For Rice, that projectile flew into an open-ended future where neither the West nor his subjects had vanished.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

Rice hardly started out immune to Western romance.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

Like all of us, he was a product of time and place.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

And in his case, the place was Germany and the time, the late 19th century, when perhaps more so than anywhere, Rice's countrymen were intoxicated with the idea of people living in nature.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

Like other German boys, Rice grew up reading Karl May, who mesmerized generations of German readers with a kind of fantasy American West.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

May remains so crucial to European ideas about America that Der Schuh der Monotone, an Austin Powers-like send-up of a 1962 Karl May movie, is the most popular film in Germany right now in 2025.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

It wasn't cowboys or miners or buffalo hunters who entranced Germans, though.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

It was Western Indians, like Mai's heroic Apache chief, Venatu, who mesmerized them.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

Actually, Mai never visited the American West, knew nothing about it beyond reading a few dubious books and entirely confused geography and tribes.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

None of that mattered.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

Mai's novels made the West appear the only place on Earth one could really be alive.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

Vinod Rice was one of his converts.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

Prepared for a version of the West hardly more real than a galaxy far, far away, a 27-year-old Rice arrived in New York in 1913 expecting to see Indians on Fifth Avenue or living in teepee villages outside New York or Boston.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

Eventually, he stumbled across a homeless ex-Wild West performer named Yellow Elk, who was Blackfeet, and told the young German if his heart's desire was to paint real Indians, the best place to go was to newly created Glacier National Park and its adjacent Blackfeet Reservation in Montana.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

There, Yellow Elk said, were the Indians of Rice's imagination.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

The Great War years obviously were not the time for a painter from America's enemy nation to travel the U.S.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

in search of subjects from the margins of American life.

The American West
Ep. 19: Shadows of the Frontier

So a 1913-1914 trip to the West didn't happen.