Dan Harris

Exactly.

As Jeff said in the meditation for the one little part that I was awake for, the...

You, letting go, which is another way of saying non-attachment, is probably better translated as letting be, letting it just be there.

So you're just like watching, hopefully with like a little grin on your face, how crazy you are, right?

And that just for, it's not some permanent state, at least not for us unenlightened worldlings, as the Buddha calls us.

It's just a little glimpse of, oh yeah, I could just let that be there.

And then you're right back in it.

And then you're free again.

And that kind of ebb and flow that Jeff has compared, he didn't use it this time, but he has sometimes compared that to the tide.

So it's those little moments.

How am I doing now?

Does that make any sense?

Yeah?

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's why I get so excited when people come to me and say, you know, I can't meditate.

I'm so, I'm seeing all these distractions or sleepiness.

I'm like, bro, that is, that's not a time.

You are seeing stuff.

And that's, that just gets that compound, that skill.