Dan Harris

Let's get back to Billy.

And you've referenced this a couple of times.

In terms of Billy on the street, the bit is this guy who cares so much about pop culture.

The stakes are incredibly high, disproportionately high.

But that actually is just a cartoonish or caricature version of you, as I understand it, from preparing for this interview.

In the book, you talk about the fact that your parents really kind of were, and you referenced this earlier in this conversation, that your parents like aided and abetted this interest.

Taking nothing away from mothers because mothers are amazing.

There is something in my experience special about a father's love.

It's beautiful.

It really is.

And honestly, we're all benefiting from it because...

I wouldn't have you in my feed making me smile all the time if you didn't have the confidence to do what you did with that first big break of yours.

Let me ask you about your mother.

You write, and I find this very amusing, in the book, you say that tragically for a memoir writer, you possess, and this is the quote, audio book only levels of childhood trauma.

That being said, there are there is in particular one really searing memory where you witness the aftermath of a fight they had.

Can you talk about that?

I think you saw your mother in the kitchen after.

Maybe it's only audiobook level of trauma, but it is traumatic.

I think it can be traumatic for kids to see their parents let their guard down in that way.

As you said at the beginning of this conversation and you say in the beginning of your new audio book, the book is not supposed to be helpful.