Dan Levy

I think personally speaking, I had to explore in order to find myself.

And I don't regret anything I've worn because it's all been fun.

It's all been in fun.

And what's the point in regretting or criticizing play?

Yeah.

It's so interesting because as a shy person and describing yourself as introverted, it's almost like you throw out a... I always think of that thing, Sir Francis Drake putting his cloak down for Elizabeth I so she could walk over the water.

And it's those moments where...

there's a lily pad and you can sort of spring onto it and explore how can you bear to be out here seen like this.

And it's good for the courageous part of oneself.

And clothes are so great for that.

You know, they are your allies.

Yeah, and I also feel like I think now that I'm sort of

lying down and having this conversation.

I wonder whether part of it, dressing slightly outside of my comfort zone or the experimentation with getting dressed had something to do with, if you're fearful of social situations,

and you appear to be somebody who maybe would invite conversation, then maybe subconsciously that's a way of trying to build a bridge, knowing that, I mean it was much worse when I was younger, but if you are not the person to go up to somebody and say hi at a party, if you look a certain way, perhaps subconsciously I was hoping it would invite someone to come up to me

Or at least not pass judgment.

If you look cool, then even if nobody talks to you, there's an idea that perhaps you're not being judged.

I think a lot of this now that I'm, again, lying down here has to do with judgment, being ridiculed and bullied for being gay growing up.

And I suppose having a good look is more likely to invite a good conversation or someone to say something.

Yeah.