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Dan Malone

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Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

That's the whole point.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

The differential in the tax rate between 38%, as it is now, and 33%.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

is not so big that it completely eradicates all of the benefits of long-term ETF index fund investing.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

It doesn't.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

And that's why it's such an annoying policy, to be frank, because it's causing this, we call it distortionary behavior in investors, where they're choosing products, investment products, that aren't as suitable to their own personal circumstances because of tax policy.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

Yeah.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

And that should never be the case.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

Yeah, so when you invest yourself, you have to look after your taxes yourself with the investing platforms, whereas a lot of the life companies, because the investments are structured as life insurance products as well, they'll handle the tax for you.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

But the tax isn't really that complicated.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

And I'm very, very hopeful that deemed disposal will be removed in an upcoming budget.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

I've been advocating for it since 2021.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

You know, the Funds Review 2030 report recommended its removal.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

You haven't sold.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

So it taxes what's called unrealized gains.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

And what an unrealized gain is, is when effectively you have made a paper gain on your investment.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

So the value of your investments has gone up, but you haven't sold.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

So those gains aren't technically real.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

They're real on paper, but you don't have access to those gains because you haven't sold the investment and taken the cash.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

Deemed disposal doesn't care about that.

Better With Money
'Never open that app again' - Investing platforms, ETFs, and the deemed disposal headache

It looks at whatever your unrealized gain is on the eighth anniversary of every purchase and it charges you 38% tax on that paper gain.