Dan Moore

This is my favorite conversation about authentication though. I'll be honest with you. I love the movie reference. That's, that's amazing.

This is my favorite conversation about authentication though. I'll be honest with you. I love the movie reference. That's, that's amazing.

So that answer, like to kind of add on to the lukewarm take, your response to Adam is, I don't care about, I mean, we don't need a universal solution because we have one that is near universal for most of, for the current platform of the century, basically. Or at least decade, maybe not century.

So that answer, like to kind of add on to the lukewarm take, your response to Adam is, I don't care about, I mean, we don't need a universal solution because we have one that is near universal for most of, for the current platform of the century, basically. Or at least decade, maybe not century.

Or frankly, like the employer might, you know, if they're an employer, there's going to be like.

Or frankly, like the employer might, you know, if they're an employer, there's going to be like.

Yeah. Right. Businesses like I know businesses that pay for one password and they're thrilled to pay for one password for all those reasons that you mentioned, Adam.

Yeah. Right. Businesses like I know businesses that pay for one password and they're thrilled to pay for one password for all those reasons that you mentioned, Adam.

Yeah. And so this is a great question because I think this goes back to that spectrum you talked about a while ago. Right. And I think that, um, if you have one single app and you have relatively simple software needs, I think that like going with the framework that is the base of your app is the right solution. Right.

Yeah. And so this is a great question because I think this goes back to that spectrum you talked about a while ago. Right. And I think that, um, if you have one single app and you have relatively simple software needs, I think that like going with the framework that is the base of your app is the right solution. Right.

So with rails, that'd be devise with, um, no JS, it might be like a passport or maybe like a, a service, like a Firebase, you know, because if you're kind of a single developer, you're just trying to get people into your app, right? And safe and secure. And a lot of these big services will take care of that.

So with rails, that'd be devise with, um, no JS, it might be like a passport or maybe like a, a service, like a Firebase, you know, because if you're kind of a single developer, you're just trying to get people into your app, right? And safe and secure. And a lot of these big services will take care of that.

Where I think it makes sense to kind of introduce something like Fusion Auth or Auth0 or any of those other kind of solutions we talked about is,

Where I think it makes sense to kind of introduce something like Fusion Auth or Auth0 or any of those other kind of solutions we talked about is,

when it gets a little bit bigger, right, when you have more than one app or when you have, you know, there's that tradeoff between build and buy and you always are kind of writing that tension of like, well, yes, our engineers could do this, but should they? And at some point the answer is no, because they're better off writing features and

when it gets a little bit bigger, right, when you have more than one app or when you have, you know, there's that tradeoff between build and buy and you always are kind of writing that tension of like, well, yes, our engineers could do this, but should they? And at some point the answer is no, because they're better off writing features and

and not writing kind of undifferentiated login functionality. So does that make sense? I mean, I appreciate the question because I'd love to be able to say, like, here's an answer for everybody and everything, but I just don't think that's the truth.

and not writing kind of undifferentiated login functionality. So does that make sense? I mean, I appreciate the question because I'd love to be able to say, like, here's an answer for everybody and everything, but I just don't think that's the truth.

Well, that even gets back to the way that people are offering to authenticate, right? Like, I think that, you know, as much as Adam hates GitHub login for Tailscale, I think that's a great example of- I don't actually mind it.

Well, that even gets back to the way that people are offering to authenticate, right? Like, I think that, you know, as much as Adam hates GitHub login for Tailscale, I think that's a great example of- I don't actually mind it.