Dan O'Brien

It keeps ramping up spending, not just more than it should, but then there are budget overruns then during the year.

If the government got its spending under control, it could give more, allow people to keep more of their own money.

That's not true.

Well, just the final thing to say, you know, we've been with this for 18 years.

The sort of arguments that are being made here is that until we reach utopia, then we can have no tax cuts.

So which is we'll never have tax cuts.

That's effectively the argument my fellow panellists are making.

And I just don't agree with that.

We are extremely highly taxed in this country at very low levels of income relative to other countries.

That was supposed to be an emergency measure 18 years ago.

It needs to be restored to where taxes were in 07.

You get government spending under control.

Less spending and more tax cuts.

And keeping, you know, the health sector, every year public spending on health not only is increased but runs over budget.

It's almost just an annual occurrence now.

The government needs to get serious.

Listen to what the fiscal watchdog that was set up after the last election

crisis back in 18 years ago and it constantly is telling the government you're not sticking by your own spending rules.

Do you want to have one last word on this?

Just one last point.