Dan Pfeiffer

Vance...

once.

I think that's why Trump gave it to him.

I think that's why he's here.

Maybe he thinks it's good for the Republicans, but I think he thinks it's probably good for himself because the Minnesota fraud, immigrant fraud, bullshit narrative they spin is a thing that excites the right-wing media people and the far-right podcasters and megatypes that J.D.

Vance is trying to persuade to be on his side in a presidential race.

So I think that's kind of how we got here.

I mean, theoretically, I guess.

I heard him say, somewhat was it,

Someone said the other day, some Republican, that once the plants are built and the people start working, then we'll see the golden age.

But also, it was terrible, and it got longer with every speech because it was a very elaborate metaphor, which with every speech, there'd be a new element of how the car got in the ditch, how the car was getting in the ditch, how dirty the ditch was.

It's not out yet because our policies take time.

That was where he lost me, because that was a Tom Daschle, Evan Bayh classic, too.

The DNR.

That's been said by one million Democratic politicians at Jefferson Jackson dinners for 50 years.

We should probably end this part out of the podcast, honestly.

This is really a great question because normally the president goes out the day after the State of the Union, does a bunch of events, will often travel for the whole week of the State of the Union, back in a different media age, they travel for two weeks.

It's just Donald Trump loves attention.

I'm sort of mystified by this.

He loves attention.