Dan Pfeiffer

And as we sit here recording this on Friday morning, there is reporting that the White House is getting closer to using ground troops.

There are some White House aides quoted on background saying how ground troops have been used in every war.

Why wouldn't they be used here?

That it's not that big a deal.

Just help us understand both the substantive and political impact of putting ground troops either in Iran proper or in the islands like Karg Island in the middle of the Strait of Hormuz.

You have the mug to prove it.

So go for it.

Yeah, it's obviously no one voted for Donald Trump for the goal of going to war with Iran.

In fact, people probably voted for the if they if they voted on war at all, they voted for the opposite of that.

The thing is, that part is really interesting because you have the high profile people like Megyn Kelly and Tucker Carlson and Sean Ryan, who's the very prominent podcaster, the former Navy SEAL, who he put out an Instagram TikTok post about just running through the quotes of all the people who said this would not happen, J.D.

Vance, Stephen Miller, etc.,

But at the same time, you have the, you know, 85 to 90% of self-identified MAGA voters are okay with, approve of the war with Iran.

And that is like a very interesting divide, which I'm sort of curious what you make of that divide.

And whether that's sustainable or...

Yeah, so I think there are a couple of things going on here.

I think, one, these are hardcore Trump voters.

They're going to be for whatever Trump is for, right?

And there's a – look, we should also – we have hardcore voters on our side, right?

Like if you look – this is not the same thing.

It's not – so I'm going to stipulate this before I get destroyed for saying it's not the same thing.